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Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by ehnto on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @09:48PM (#16270935)
I just don't understand why public works should ever go outside of the local economy, globalisation or not. I don't just want my tax dollars to give me a new thing, I want that new thing to be built in my state. If we don't have the skillset then let that money stimulate growth there.

Recently our government outsourced some naval ship building outside the country at the last moment after having expressed they were going to have them locally built. The reason for the switch was cost. To shave a million or two off the price of a many hundred million dollar project they decided to completely remove our local economy from the benefactors.

Private projects? Do what you like. Global times. But a governments role is to grow the economy and welfare of its people, public works are excellent ways to stimulate that.

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by mc32 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @11:02PM (#16271179)
Or local universities[1]. I think they had their then current staff train their replacements --what gall.

Now, imagine if the faculty president thought "hmm, I bet we can save a bunch if we do remote teaching. We'll get super large interactive displays in every classroom and we'll have faculty in [some country] teach our students. We'll save millions!"

[1]http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/UCSF-to-outsource...

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by acct1771 on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @12:24AM (#16271619)
Anyone who's ever seen a University budget can see why they'd never do that.

Slippery slope, if you outsource/fully digitize the teachers...administration comes next.

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by caseysoftware on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @12:20AM (#16271599)
The easy work around is to open a "local" office or wholly owned subsidiary that they run the contract through. It happens all the time with "minority-owned, female led small businesses" to win government contracts.

All the Beltway Bandits (DC consulting companies) know how to play the game, to what degree they play it is the only question. It's unfortunate that they game the system but the rules are set up to encourage it.

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by Nitramp on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @06:00AM (#16272985)
The argument is that picking the most efficient solution regardless of where it is sourced from is actually the best way to increase the welfare of your local {economy,state,nation}. Trying to artificially prop up the local economy seems attractive in the short term, but ultimately leads to inefficiency and exactly the excesses the NYT post above cites in the context of metro construction.

For a longer argument, see Adam Smith, "The Wealth of Nations" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wealth_of_Nations).

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by icebraining on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @04:44AM (#16272701)
If we don't have the skillset then let that money stimulate growth there.

For one-off projects, all you're doing is spending a bunch of money training people, who will then mostly likely move to places where there are long-term jobs.

Investing in the creation of new industries might be a good endeavor for a government, but it should be dictated by a strategy, not by its occasional needs.

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by photojosh on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @12:55AM (#16271786)
Australia?

We also have a local train manufacturing industry. But end up buying from China...

Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by gaius on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @03:27AM (#16272382)
The UK is the leader in this field sadly. One of the very few things we are still “good” at is destroying our own economy for short term gain.
Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by peoplewindow on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @05:17AM (#16272825)
Hardly. Crossrail is the largest construction project in Europe and most contracts went to UK firms, most staff were trained on-site in the UK at a specially built tunnelling academy and so on.
Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by gaius on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @05:45AM (#16272929)
Well that’s a step in the right direction but look at all the public sector IT work going to outsourcing companies who promptly offshore it.
Re:After alleged 'bait and switch,' Nevada DMV cancels $78M ... by peoplewindow on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @08:53AM (#16273782)
Can you be more specific? I'm sure it happens a lot, but if the product is delivered successfully then no problem, right? UK unemployment is very low despite massive uncontrolled immigration from very tech savvy populations, so there's not exactly large pools of unemployed domestic software engineers for governments to tap.