Re:Bill Nye Does Not Speak for Us and He Does Not Speak for ...
by FiatLuxDave on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @03:09PM
(#16268549)
To quote Spock, "There's an old Vulcan proverb: Only Nixon could go to China."
Re:Bill Nye Does Not Speak for Us and He Does Not Speak for ...
by manicdee on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @05:49PM
(#16269821)
You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
Elon Musk already learned that lesson.
Re:Bill Nye Does Not Speak for Us and He Does Not Speak for ...
by bb88 on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @07:00PM
(#16270229)
There are lots of issues other than climate science that need debate. And demonizing the other side for their beliefs doesn't help.
It's one thing if you want to be critical of their ideas, but attack the ideas, stop attacking the people.
Re:Bill Nye Does Not Speak for Us and He Does Not Speak for ...
by dkarl on Wednesday January 31, 2018 @10:49AM
(#16274731)
Demonization is when you generalize from some bad things a person does, such as trying to defund and suppress climate research, and attribute it to the person being an essentially bad person who naturally gravitates towards evil in everything. An example of demonization would be if I said Jim Bridenstine consistently works to suppress climate science, therefore he must like human suffering, hmmm, makes you wonder if he likes rape. That's demonization. Saying he's an enemy of climate science, and also that he has incorrectly cited science as proving that gay couples don't make good parents, and that I think these are horrible things, is not demonization.
As for ad hominem, talking about Bridenstine's politics is not an irrelevant aspect of the debate, like if I said he was stupid or a bad soccer player. In fact, they're the only thing that matters. Bill Nye is attending as Jim Bridenstine's formal guest to a government event, a gesture of personal support of Bridenstine in his capacity as a government official, so what Bridenstine does in that capacity is important for interpreting the meaning of Bill Nye's attendance.
If you want to consider this part of the long game of Bill Nye using his power in Washington, fine. What does this accomplish? It tells Republicans that they can buy anything from him if they offer him TV exposure. Don't you think if he cared a little bit less about his own celebrity he could have maybe done something good with it?