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Re:How the Guardian improbably put itself on the path to pro... by toyg on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @06:28AM (#16264437)
> They’re as establishment as it gets.

It depends on your definition of "establishment". The Guardian writers tend to represent middle- and upper-middle-class istances, which are not the same as working-class ones but can also be pretty divergent from proper upper-class objectives.

Re:How the Guardian improbably put itself on the path to pro... by gaius on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @08:43AM (#16265168)
Maybe, but at the same time, they clearly don’t believe in fair taxation or comprehensive education or anything else they seemingly advocate. One rule for the toffs and another for the plebs, is their real message.
Re:How the Guardian improbably put itself on the path to pro... by toyg on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @10:24AM (#16265976)
> they clearly don’t believe in fair taxation or comprehensive education

I disagree on that. Some of them do, some of them don't. The work they've done on Panama Papers and other stuff was pretty good, and overall unmatched in the UK. I have my complaints with the Guardian, but I wouldn't brand them with a scarlet letter.