Re:EFF's Fight to End Warrantless Device Searches at the Border
by moonka on Monday January 29, 2018 @08:46PM
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It's 100 miles from the border. Which covers almost 2/3's of Americans.
https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
Re:EFF's Fight to End Warrantless Device Searches at the Border
by mikeash on Monday January 29, 2018 @09:50PM
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How could a border wall possibly influence searches of personal devices at crossings far away from it? This makes no sense.
Re:EFF's Fight to End Warrantless Device Searches at the Border
by microcolonel on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @04:26AM
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> How could a border wall possibly influence searches of personal devices at crossings far away from it? This makes no sense.
I did not make that argument, sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
Re:EFF's Fight to End Warrantless Device Searches at the Border
by mikeash on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @06:34AM
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Can you explain what your second paragraph means, if not that?
Re:EFF's Fight to End Warrantless Device Searches at the Border
by mtphil on Monday January 29, 2018 @08:50PM
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"Sadly, a considerable number of people in the U.S. are dead set against the wall, and don't understand that the requirement for ladders and climbing makes non-customs crossings more conspicuous and time-consuming, making unpredictable and regular patrols considerably more effective whether or not the wall proves to be a total impasse."
YIKES.
https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/walled-states-waning-sovereig...
Re:EFF's Fight to End Warrantless Device Searches at the Border
by microcolonel on Tuesday January 30, 2018 @04:25AM
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> Why do walls marking national boundaries proliferate amid widespread proclamations of global connectedness and despite anticipation of a world without borders? Why are barricades built of concrete, steel, and barbed wire when threats to the nation today are so often miniaturized, vaporous, clandestine, dispersed, or networked?
Because some specific threats, specifically to sovereignty, can be deterred, retarded, and/or prevented by a wall.
If the South wall is put into place, it might be possible to justify reducing the margin in which they can conduct searches without warrant, but at the moment it's a crucial tool both practically and in the minds of those charged with defending the border.
Sadly, a considerable number of people in the U.S. are dead set against the wall, and don't understand that the requirement for ladders and climbing makes non-customs crossings more conspicuous and time-consuming, making unpredictable and regular patrols considerably more effective whether or not the wall proves to be a total impasse.