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Re:The U.S. Gets Less Subway for Its Money Than Its Peers by rco8786 on Monday January 29, 2018 @03:30PM (#16260396)
That's still only $73mil/year. A small fraction of the billions.
Re:The U.S. Gets Less Subway for Its Money Than Its Peers by potatolicious on Monday January 29, 2018 @03:47PM (#16260499)
That's the tip of the iceberg - the linked article goes into much more detail.

Procurement practice and staffing practice are huge contributors to the excessive cost. The projects are massively overstaffed contrasted with comparable projects elsewhere - the article:

> "The staffing of tunnel-boring machines came up repeatedly in interviews with contractors. The so-called T.B.M.s are massive contraptions, weighing over 1,000 tons and stretching up to 500 feet from cutting wheel to thrust system, but they largely run automatically. Other cities typically man the machine with fewer than 10 people."

> "It is not just tunneling machines that are overstaffed, though. A dozen New York unions work on tunnel creation, station erection and system setup. Each negotiates with the construction companies over labor conditions, without the M.T.A.’s involvement. And each has secured rules that contractors say require more workers than necessary."

> "In New York, “underground construction employs approximately four times the number of personnel as in similar jobs in Asia, Australia, or Europe,” according to an internal report by Arup, a consulting firm that worked on the Second Avenue subway and many similar projects around the world."

The fictional no-show jobs that are pure corruption make up only a small amount of the cost of projects - a much larger portion are jobs are real, but largely unnecessary.

The other big practice cited in the article is that the unions do not negotiate with the MTA, but rather with contractors. Contractors, receiving a percentage of the total cost of the contract, have no incentive to reign in labor costs and staffing - and in fact have every incentive to do exactly the opposite.

A cheaper, smaller contract employing fewer people is worth less to the contractor. Realistically the city or the MTA should be negotiating with labor unions directly.

Re:The U.S. Gets Less Subway for Its Money Than Its Peers by dukoid on Monday January 29, 2018 @08:53PM (#16262282)
The sad thing is that there would be probably more work / employment in subway construction in total if subway construction was cheaper...
Re:The U.S. Gets Less Subway for Its Money Than Its Peers by rayiner on Monday January 29, 2018 @05:27PM (#16261209)
The east side access project started in 2007 and is scheduled to go into service in 2023. At $73 million per year, that’s $1.16 billion, or almost 10% of the total 10 billion budget. Just for that one batch of ghost workers.
Re:The U.S. Gets Less Subway for Its Money Than Its Peers by indoordinosaur on Monday January 29, 2018 @05:15PM (#16261135)
Realize that these projects often take up to a decade. $730 million is a lot of wasted money and probably how much an entire line costs in some countries.
Re:The U.S. Gets Less Subway for Its Money Than Its Peers by astrodust on Monday January 29, 2018 @09:16PM (#16262395)
It's also subject to inflationary pressure.
Re:The U.S. Gets Less Subway for Its Money Than Its Peers by jonknee on Monday January 29, 2018 @03:42PM (#16260469)
And it's just one example of the inefficiencies...