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Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by mpweiher on Sunday January 28, 2018 @02:15PM (#16252860)
Can't happen soon enough for me.

Also smart: '“Member states should mull over together which time – summer or winter time – should be adopted on a permanent basis.”'

Let's keep it on summer time, having light at 4 pm is more valuable than at 4 am. (I know, exaggerating, but only a little)

Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by mongol on Sunday January 28, 2018 @03:53PM (#16253410)
I prefer to keep local time aligned with its historical roots, so that 12 is the hour closest to sun's highest point in the sky. What prevents society from adjusting to that?
Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by mpweiher on Sunday January 28, 2018 @03:59PM (#16253442)
It's a good idea. However, it is incompatible with having the same time across a fairly large swathe of longitudes.

The benefits of having a common time such as CET/MEZ for most of continental Europe outweigh the nicety of having 12 noon correspond to the high point of the sun's arc in the sky.

Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by akvadrako on Sunday January 28, 2018 @04:11PM (#16253526)
You could actually do even better and just make all of the EU one timezone - since it doesn't have much to do with high noon anyway.
Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by mpweiher on Sunday January 28, 2018 @04:21PM (#16253585)
Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by tonfa on Sunday January 28, 2018 @04:25PM (#16253612)
You'd have to move western europe (France/Spain) to GMT for that to happen :)

(they stayed on CET/CEST after changing timezone during WWII)

Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by skrause on Sunday January 28, 2018 @04:35PM (#16253678)
Would that be a problem? I think CET is way too big anyway.

UTC makes sense for Spain and maybe France, UTC+1 is a perfect fit for Germany and Poland could be UTC+2.

Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by troels on Sunday January 28, 2018 @03:58PM (#16253438)
As measured from where? CET is a pretty wide zone.
Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by skrause on Sunday January 28, 2018 @04:30PM (#16253642)
> Let's keep it on summer time, having light at 4 pm is more valuable than at 4 am.

The vast support for permanent summer-time makes me think that either a lot of people are early birds or people just don't understand that DST is simply a way of forcing everyone to get up an hour earlier to "magically" get more sunlight in the evening.

If you don't like getting up early you should hate summer time.

Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by runarberg on Sunday January 28, 2018 @04:29PM (#16253637)
That is what Iceland did. Before the 1960's Iceland observed the daylight saving hour by switched from Iceland standard time (GMT-1) to GMT. In 1968 however, Iceland decided to stay on the daylight saving hour making true noon in Reykjavík often around 13:30.

Having grown in those hours I have to say it kind of sucks. You wake up in darkness most of the year. If you wake up at 7:00 local time, that means you wake up at 5:30 solar time.

There are loud voices (including psychologists and medical experts) that are advocating for moving Iceland back to Icelandic standard time (UTC-1). They claim the lack of sunshine can have detrimental effect on the sleeping cycle and therefor the general health of the population. Adding an extra hour of sun in the morning might be helpful for the general population.

Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by tscs37 on Sunday January 28, 2018 @04:03PM (#16253464)
The third option might be a middle ground: +0:30, though I guess a lot of timezone dropdown boxes would suddenly break at that one (not that they worked to begin with).
Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by hannele on Monday January 29, 2018 @11:46AM (#16258557)
There are plenty of places that already offset by half an hour (Newfoundland for example) or even a quarter of an hour (Chatham Islands in New Zealand) so any dropdowns should already handle this.
Re:Finland to propose that EU abolish daylight savings time by tscs37 on Monday January 29, 2018 @11:58AM (#16258681)
Sadly, a lot of dropdowns I encounter handle only even offsets from -12 to 12... The state of modern web forms is sad.