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Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by mistermann on Saturday January 27, 2018 @10:45AM (#16246597)
You make it sound as if it can be nothing but emotional, whereas there actually can be an objective, reasoned aspect as well.
Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by teawrecks on Saturday January 27, 2018 @01:10PM (#16247219)
So you're saying the contestant's husband poses an actual legitimate threat to the judge? Or is it just a stereotype he's reacting to?
Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by coldtea on Saturday January 27, 2018 @01:28PM (#16247337)
He's taking a stance for many, and treats the other as if he equally represents many.

He is not ready to "forgive and forget" and put "water under the bridge" for what he thinks those many did (or continue to do) to his country.

That's not a response to a "legitimate threat", but it's the expression of a legitimate (as far as that person is concerned) grievance.

Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by mistermann on Monday January 29, 2018 @12:41AM (#16255548)
> So you're saying

You're aware of the meme going around regarding this phrase I assume? :)

No, I'm saying there can be an objective, reasoned aspect as to racism, that is doesn't have to be purely based on "fear".

Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by meri_dian on Saturday January 27, 2018 @10:55AM (#16246628)
No one is objective and we are very often ruled by emotion.
Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by coldtea on Saturday January 27, 2018 @10:58AM (#16246636)
Which is neither here, nor there.

We might be "very often ruled by emotion" but there's also an objective reality out there. A black guy flirting with a white woman in the 20's Alabama would indeed find themselves hanging from a tree -- whether they were "objective" or not.

Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by meri_dian on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:50AM (#16246868)
And that would happen because of herd mentality outrage fueled by anger that ultimately derives from fear.
Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by coldtea on Saturday January 27, 2018 @12:03PM (#16246914)
If that was true, it could happen towards any group and at all times, but it usually happens to specific groups in specific scenarios.

The anger and outrage helped keep blacks down, and thus their wages down, and keeping them for asking for more and competing with whites. Just like before the civil war it helped justify their being kept as slaves, and thus function as profit centers.

So it's not just irrational fear.

Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by meri_dian on Saturday January 27, 2018 @01:31PM (#16247351)
It's often the case that majority groups feel threatened by minority groups, or that the majority is jealous of a relatively more successful minority. Or that a minority group feels resentment for bad treatment.

These are all conditions that cause racial tension to flare. It's actually quite predictable, which reminds us that the spread of racism is like a social disease and should be treated as such.

Re:An Italian Song That Sounds Like English But Is Nonsense by mistermann on Monday January 29, 2018 @02:24AM (#16255930)
coldtea was pointing out an example where racism is not irrational, but very rational indeed. It is statistically valid for black people in the US to be afraid of white people in certain situations.