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Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by IIAOPSW on Saturday January 27, 2018 @09:15AM (#16246278)
Combine this with that other group that machine learned to generate fake celebrities.

Soon we'll be able to make 100% convincing movies without any real celebrities whatsoever. Imagine a world of no celebrities. No TMZ. No gossip columns. No infotainmant on the news. No faux outrage scandals.

sniff its beautiful isn't it.

Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by krapp on Saturday January 27, 2018 @09:36AM (#16246347)
>Imagine a world of no celebrities. No TMZ. No gossip columns. No infotainmant on the news. No faux outrage scandals.

You'd still have all of those things, because those are all part of the business that drives entertainment. The entire scandal complex would just be automated and generated by AI along with the rest of consumer culture, but it won't go away. Why would it, when there's so much money to be made?

There will be probably be more of it, not less, because once you have perfectly convincing virtual celebrities, you can include perfectly convincing virtual dead celebrities as well, and fictional characters within their respective fictional worlds.

Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by Udik on Saturday January 27, 2018 @10:41AM (#16246583)
That reminds me of a definition I gave once of one of those tv series full of mysteries and supernatural events that should all be explained by some underlying reality that, alas, never existed even in the minds of the authors.

"Like a gossip magazine about non-existent people"

It seems that people would actually buy and read them avidly.

Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by krapp on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:15AM (#16246714)
>It seems that people would actually buy and read them avidly.

They would. It's basically making an industry out of what already happens in fandom.

Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by cr0sh on Saturday January 27, 2018 @12:20PM (#16246981)
Weekly World News?
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by robterrell on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:33AM (#16246802)
Most likely, celebrities will hire nobodies to be body doubles for them, to do the hard work of actually making movies / tv shows, and then the AIs will fill in their faces later.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by xbmcuser on Saturday January 27, 2018 @02:07PM (#16247545)
It would be interesting movies and TV shows would be viewer customisable. I would love to see an ai that can read a novel and create a movie out of it.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by booleandilemma on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:03AM (#16246662)
So like fantasy football for celebrity gossip?
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by jamesrcole on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:32AM (#16246800)
> Soon we'll be able to make 100% convincing movies without any real celebrities whatsoever.

Being able to mimic particular people is quite different to being able to:

- make the AI act in a compelling way in a new movie (e.g. getting the emotion and delivery right for a particular scene)

- create a compelling actor from scratch.

Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by IIAOPSW on Saturday January 27, 2018 @10:30PM (#16249611)
My point was that we already have bullet point 2.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/30/16569402/ai-generate-fak...

Bullet point 1 probably isn't too far off.

Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by jamesrcole on Sunday January 28, 2018 @02:24PM (#16252916)
No we don't! Not even close.

That article is about creating fake faces. That's all.

Being able to create a virtual actor that can somehow generate a compelling performance from a script, or which can even be programmed to create a compelling performance, is orders of magnitude more difficult, and far beyond anything we can currently do.

Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by kgwgk on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:58AM (#16246896)
Movies without celebrities have been made for quite some time already.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by jamesrcole on Saturday January 27, 2018 @03:12PM (#16247866)
The person I was replying to was clearly taking about the case of replacing them with AI-created actors.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by kgwgk on Saturday January 27, 2018 @05:33PM (#16248483)
Sorry, I replied at the wrong point in the thread. I should have replied to him.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by danharaj on Saturday January 27, 2018 @09:31AM (#16246335)
Hatsune Miku
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by michaelbuckbee on Saturday January 27, 2018 @10:58AM (#16246639)
I agree and think a real driving force for this will be internationalization. Shoot the movie and then swap the actors for Chinese audiences, etc.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by karma_fountain on Saturday January 27, 2018 @09:26AM (#16246320)
We would just worship the fakes instead.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by npmanor on Saturday January 27, 2018 @09:32AM (#16246337)
This reminds me of the culture around Hatsune Miku.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by drharby on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:08AM (#16246686)
Stop talking about my wife
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by keyme on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:31AM (#16246791)
IIRC the movie The Congress (2013) is about this (before it transitions into a full on acid trip)
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by Shivetya on Saturday January 27, 2018 @10:22AM (#16246501)
looking forward to a demo of this tech where all actors, male and female, are replaced with a single select actor.

the technology can only get better, the question is will disclaimers become part of every video or just the assumption of what you see is always fake?

Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by Pxtl on Saturday January 27, 2018 @10:38AM (#16246573)
Bonus points if it's John Malkovich
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by cryptoz on Saturday January 27, 2018 @09:34AM (#16246344)
S1mOne (sp?) is a movie about that. But there will always be TMZ and gossip, they don't rely on celebrities to exist they rely on juicy stories involving anyone.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by rev_null on Saturday January 27, 2018 @11:29AM (#16246780)
This is a major plot element of the 2013 film "The Congress". I highly recommend it.
Re:Nicolas Cage DeepFake by didibus on Saturday January 27, 2018 @01:26PM (#16247321)
I think this is from the same group.