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Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by debt on Friday January 26, 2018 @03:42PM (#16242711)
The hilarious thing about this is that so what why not? Can't I opt to let another co-opt my cpu while I watch videos so that I don't have to watch ads?

I'd much prefer people using my cpu to mine bitcoin than to render some shitty ad.

This is actually a fascinating development in this space.

Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by klodolph on Friday January 26, 2018 @03:47PM (#16242761)
The payoff isn't good enough for this to support add-free services, and the payoff gets worse as crypto becomes more popular. Then there's the fact that you might be browsing from a battery-powered device.
Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by nopriorarrests on Friday January 26, 2018 @04:33PM (#16243077)
>The payoff isn't good enough for this to support add-free services

Hmm, wait. How it works, then?

Let's say I'm paying 1$ to display malicious ad which mines something. BTC.

If amount of mined BTC is lower than 1$, the whole operations becomes unprofitable. Why should I pay 1$ to mine 90 cents via ad?

If people are running this operation on scale, it should be profitable. But then payoff is by definition good enough to support ad-free service. Instead of taking 1$ from advertiser, google can theoretically mine 1$ on my PC and let me watch video without ads.

What do I miss?

Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by sigstoat on Friday January 26, 2018 @04:44PM (#16243138)
you still get to display an advertisement. so it isn't "mined BTC > $1 --> success"; it is "mined BTC + expected value of running scam ad > $1 --> success"
Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by debt on Friday January 26, 2018 @06:28PM (#16243749)
I think his point was a hypothetical without the advertising component. Like if they just embedded bitcoin miners in every page that displayed a youtube video.
Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by nopriorarrests on Friday January 26, 2018 @04:52PM (#16243181)
Good point! Thank you.

PS: Also, I wonder what other sites could be affected. Requirement is "user spending a lot of time on a page", so maybe blogging services with long posts, or shady sites with online sports broadcasts. Ugh, adblocker slowly becomes a requirement for modern web.

Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by jnordwick on Friday January 26, 2018 @03:53PM (#16242816)
Cut out the middle man. YouTube itself can mine cryptos while videos are playing instead of displaying ads. At least then you know the trade off and have a single company to complain to when they are draining your CPU too much.
Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by lithos on Saturday January 27, 2018 @02:13PM (#16247583)
You're still better off selling shovels in a gold rush.
Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by ben_jones on Friday January 26, 2018 @03:45PM (#16242743)
Do we trust the competency of ad providers to normalize for low powered devices? If I read an article on some small news outlet or indie blog using my phone, will my hand get burned off?
Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by devereaux on Friday January 26, 2018 @03:49PM (#16242787)
I trust their financial interest. A cellphone will not mine enough to be profitable, so they will serve a regular ad instead.
Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by adrianN on Friday January 26, 2018 @04:08PM (#16242911)
A normal CPU probably won't mine enough to be profitable either, but since the users pays for electricity, not the advertiser, I don't see the incentive.
Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by devereaux on Friday January 26, 2018 @04:29PM (#16243057)
Dust (UXTO with small amounts) would make them incur greater transaction fees when trying to access their account.

BTW, it is interesting my comments offering an explanation are being downvoted.

I guess cryptocurrency discussions are driven by passion, not by logic.

Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by stordoff on Sunday January 28, 2018 @09:13PM (#16254866)
Wouldn't they just mine to a pool (private pool if enough clients)? I'm not sure why an inefficient client would lead to additional fees.
Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by devereaux on Friday January 26, 2018 @03:48PM (#16242770)
This! So much!

Many people just can't see the progress and the new possibilities offered.

Like you, I don't like ads because it distracts me. Mining on my CPU? I do not care. If it pays for bandwidth and allows me to get a ad-free experience, sign-me up!

Re:Ad campaign runs cryptocurrency miners while unwitting us... by delete2 on Friday January 26, 2018 @04:28PM (#16243044)
that's so incredibly naive, you're going to get ads on top of a cryptominer