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Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by seattle_spring on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:00AM (#16239613)
> not talk about politics in the work place.

I honestly wish this was the law.

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by monktastic1 on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:06AM (#16239652)
> I honestly wish this was the law.

Like, honestly honestly, or jokingly honestly? What if I say "I wish I were allowed to speak about politics at work" at work? That's political. Do I get a fine? How about "am I allowed to talk about this?" If it's a gray area and we start debating it, which one of us gets shipped to the gulag?

Who gets to decide what's politics? Isn't even that question political?

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by seattle_spring on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:21AM (#16239784)
I don't know. Whatever would prevent my co-workers from talking about politics for the entirety of lunch, every single day.
Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by bipson on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:43AM (#16239987)
And here comes the view of someone that is interested in politics and is reminded daily of how politics makes everyone's lives worse than necessary:

I wish my coworkers (and my fellow citizens for that matter) would be interested in politics just a little more, so they would realize what is happening around them, and know what they are talking about whenever they touch politics and legislature. My opinion is gradually becoming a minority view all over Europe, with people fleeing to either extreme.

The thing is: We were once "politically uneducated" here in Europe. It made the "third Reich" as a mass phenomenon possible, because a lot of people joined this movement blindly and with enthusiasm and did not realize where this train was heading until it was way too late (and they were completely delusional).

When the allies took over they tried to make sure we would be and stay politically educated, so this would never happen again (spoiler: it did not work). How ironic that America is spearheading the movement to normalize extreme views.

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by ihattendorf on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:40AM (#16240522)
I think everyone should be interested in politics, but that doesn't mean I want to talk politics every day for an hour during my lunch with coworkers. There's more happening in the world than politics. I think that's what the parent is getting at. That also doesn't mean I think there should be a law against it.
Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by monktastic1 on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:33AM (#16240443)
Right, but do you want to use threat of punishment to enforce your personal desires? Do you want to live in a society where that's a thing that people can do? If society were headed that way, wouldn't even you want to talk about it? I doubt you'd want to live in the kind of society you want to build.

Assuming you think coercion is a bad idea, your only tool left is discussion and consensus-building about rules. In other words, politics.

(To be fair, I understand the underlying sentiment: I, too, would like to live in a world where my personal desires were somehow the law of the land in such a way that everybody else were also happy with them. But after some long thought (and some good literature) I think that really falls in the "be careful what you wish for" category.)

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by throwawayeo5 on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:42AM (#16240537)
> Do you want to live in a society where that's a thing that people can do?

We already do. C.f. laws, courts.

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by monktastic1 on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:59AM (#16240720)
The "thing" referred to here was enforcing "your personal desires." In a functioning democracy, it's never one individual's personal desires that are enforced. The question of whether various democracies are functioning is an interesting one but not my intention to discuss here.
Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by moomin on Friday January 26, 2018 @12:22PM (#16240937)
Reminder that one person's politics is another person's life experience.
Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by throwawayeo5 on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:44AM (#16240564)
The worst part is that it’s typically navel-gazing about national politics. Don’t get me wrong, I agree with my coworkers’ views a lot, but good god, does anyone know what the state legislature is doing? How about the governor? Which of our coworkers could name their state rep? Probably very few. Meanwhile, we have a primary coming up in six months and our district has two lackluster candidates, but nobody’s concerned about that (we’re losing our awesome incumbent who’s running for state senate).
Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by Yetanfou on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:04AM (#16239639)
This could only be the law if and when politics did not influence decisions in the workplace. As that is not - and can not be - the case it does not make sense to ban talk about politics, no matter how futile such talk often is.
Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by ztjio on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:06AM (#16239655)
A far simpler problem exists: you can't actually define what is or is not politics.
Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by 13years on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:16AM (#16239749)
This might sound good, but the result of such is tyranny and loss of free speech.

Politics easily being a fuzzy term which can be adapted to fit a very wide range of ideas gives those few in power who set the rules the ability to silence whatever they wish.

It would better if there were more initiatives to improve intellectual discourse so people could like actually talk to one another.

The less we talk, the further apart we will grow

Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by TheAdamAndChe on Friday January 26, 2018 @10:20AM (#16239782)
Keyword: Talk. I'm not so sure that online communities are the best place for political discussion. Direct person-to-person communication allows for much more subtle, nuanced conversation and doesn't seem to turn into dumpster-fires nearly as often as online.
Re:The Dirty War Over Diversity Inside Google by ghthor on Friday January 26, 2018 @02:31PM (#16242154)
Its also much less likely for someone to copy and leak the conversation in it in person.