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Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by baby on Thursday January 25, 2018 @04:31PM (#16234866)
> I prefer hotels to Airbnb

I really don't get this kind of opinion, just because it is so binary. Hotels are great when you need to quickly check-in and check-out, although the experience vary grandly and they can get pretty bad and pretty expensive.

On the other hand if I want to feel "at home", if I want something cheaper, if I want a kitchen and if I want something well located. Airbnb is always the answer.

There's something really impersonal about staying in a hotel that you don't get with an Airbnb (although some airbnbs are pretty bad as well).

I remember almost all the airbnbs I've stayed at. I usually forget about how a hotel room looks a few days after checking out. Try to think about this, you'll be surprised ;)

Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by ghaff on Thursday January 25, 2018 @04:36PM (#16234912)
I'm the same way as the parent. Especially traveling on business, I want something straightforward and reliable even if my flight is delayed. Especially outside of cities on vacation, I may well stay in "official" B&Bs (which are increasingly listed on Airbnb although I almost always book direct) assuming it's not somewhere like a national park where I likely don't have that option.
Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by Consultant32452 on Thursday January 25, 2018 @05:02PM (#16235111)
I can't imagine a scenario in which I'd prefer an AirBnB for business travel. But here's a scenario that AirBnB was a perfect fit. My daughter is a cheerleader and we sometimes have traveling competitions. There are some families on her team which we're friends with. Rather than everyone getting a hotel room we rented an entire house on AirBnB. Each family got their own room, the kids got to enjoy being together, and we had a default location to just waste time watching TV or whatever all together between competition events. We ended up cooking out at our AirBnB location. It was really great for this more casual travel experience.
Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by ghaff on Thursday January 25, 2018 @05:15PM (#16235222)
Absolutely. And, as I said in another comment, the marketplaces for renting vacation homes, houses, etc. was very fragmented and generally not very good until AirBnB came along. A lot of their business still depends on sketchy host behavior but there was clearly a legitimate need for a better service.

Also, in cities, I'm not sure I even want to spend enough time in wherever I'm staying to have a memorable experience. The city is the experience, not the place I'm staying. Not that I hang around where I'm staying most places but definitely not in cities. Or if I do, it's because I'm working :-/

Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by Consultant32452 on Thursday January 25, 2018 @05:23PM (#16235272)
With regards to non-business stays in cities, I'm more than happy to use AirBnB if I can simultaneously save money and support a small business. I've used AirBnB for beach vacations before and it worked out great for that as well, equally a scenario where hanging out at the house wasn't desired. We were at the beach all day.
Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by baby on Thursday January 25, 2018 @07:21PM (#16236048)
It really boils down to how long you're staying, and how convenient you need your check-in/check-out experience. I did get Airbnbs when I was going to conferences for work and it was awesome (one of them was in an amazing house in the middle of Zurich with two other crypto homies).
Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by bogomipz on Thursday January 25, 2018 @05:43PM (#16235425)
>"On the other hand if I want to feel "at home", ..."

Really? How "at home" can you feel when you are in a total stranger's home?

>"If I want something cheaper, ..."

This is certainly not always the case.

>"if I want something well located."

Right, because all hotels are always in some completely undesirable part of town, far away from anything and everything.

>"Airbnb is always the answer."

No, it is not.

Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by baby on Thursday January 25, 2018 @07:23PM (#16236064)
> Really? How "at home" can you feel when you are in a total stranger's home?

Have you tried it? I've heard that argument before but I do feel "at home" when I'm travelling and airbnb'ing. When you're coming back to a hotel after a dinner or a night drinking it just doesn't have this feeling. As I said I still remember the Airbnbs I've been to just because I felt like I "lived" there for a while.

> This is certainly not always the case.

It is constantly the case in my experience. I've airbnb'ed in France, HongKong, Japan, the US, the UK, China, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, ...

> Right, because all hotels are always in some completely undesirable part of town, far away from anything and everything.

For the same price, yes.

> No, it is not.

I'll still recommend you to give it one more try!

Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by bogomipz on Thursday January 25, 2018 @10:06PM (#16236747)
>"Have you tried it?"

Yes I've stayed at people's houses whom I didn't know very well. I don't think paying for the experience would have made me feel any more "at home."

>"When you're coming back to a hotel after a dinner or a night drinking it just doesn't have this feeling."

Exactly but it has the feeling of "wow someone came in and cleaned, there's fresh towels, toiletries, water and the bed is made." And I don't have worry about playing games with reviewing people or being reviewed.

Lots of people just go home when they want to feel at home.

Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by baby on Friday January 26, 2018 @08:22AM (#16238898)
I’ll argue that there are two ways to visit a city/country. You can be a tourist, or you can live there. The second option is always better imo (I lived in quite some places myself). Of course most of the time you’ll only be able to visit, that’s when Airbnb makes you feel like you’re “living” in the city. You’re not going back to a hotel, you’re going back to a home.

Say what you will but in my own anecdotic experience (I travel a lot) I do feel like I’ve lived in these cities for a bit when I airbnb there. And I still remember all these airbnbs even after many years.

Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by bogomipz on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:21AM (#16240337)
The idea that staying in an AirBnB instead of a hotel means you are "living like a local" is patently absurd. It's also an invention of marketing folks at AirBnB. One that you have apparently bought right into.

Your credential signaling - "I travel a lot" adds no weight at all. I too travel, most of the year and have been around the world more than a few times at this point in my life. Living like a local is about many things - establishing friendships and relationships with people that live there, its about establishing a routine, its about having life experiences there. But it most certainly has nothing to do with staying in a hotel vs staying in an Airbnb.

Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by baby on Saturday January 27, 2018 @06:42AM (#16245841)
> One that you have apparently bought right into

Well I'm glad I did then, because I truly feel at home when I stay in an Airbnb, and I don't feel at home when I'm staying in a hotel.

Of course living in a city is about more than just having a home, but it gives you that feeling, for a bit.

> "I travel a lot" adds no weight at all

Of course it adds weight. I have the actual experience of living in different cities (and different continents) and I've been staying at airbnbs and hotels enough to understand the difference. Now again, these are just my personal anecdotal experiences, but saying that it is absurd is absurd. You can't objectively think that living in someone's "home" is not more homely that staying in a hotel.

Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by noobermin on Thursday January 25, 2018 @04:34PM (#16234886)
I've stayed at Airbnb's where I wasn't allowed to use their kitchen. Ergo, Airbnb isn't always the answer, it does vary.
Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by eropple on Thursday January 25, 2018 @04:46PM (#16234995)
And I pretty regularly stay, for roughly the same price, at "extended stay" hotels (where I am not staying for an extended stay) with a kitchen, albeit a small one.
Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by ghaff on Thursday January 25, 2018 @04:50PM (#16235030)
Ditto. I don't usually use anything except the refrigerator--and even many "regular" hotels these days seem to have emptied the minibar and left the mini-fridge--but they usually also have sofas, etc. and generally room to stretch out. I often find it preferable to usual hotel amenities that I mostly don't use.
Re:Open Letter to the Airbnb Community About Building a 21st... by conanbatt on Thursday January 25, 2018 @05:33PM (#16235350)
Hotels are also so expensive, airbnb is really a lot cheaper..and you have way more choices location wise.

It is almost always a worse experience than a hotel. Also hotels get screwed on taxes in a way airbnb doesn't.