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Re:Waze Carpool by untog on Thursday January 25, 2018 @10:50AM (#16231634)
There are many great examples of Google failing to internationalise, but Google Fi requiring a US billing address is not one of them.

Fi is a domestic cell phone service, it provides international roaming as a bonus to its US customers - at much increased cost (to them) compared to domestic service. I wouldn't be surprised if roaming permanently was a violation of their terms of service (it is for Three in the UK, who provide a similar perk)

You can of course criticise Google for not launching domestic service in countries across the world, but in fairness to them, that's not a small problem.

Re:Waze Carpool by scrollaway on Thursday January 25, 2018 @10:52AM (#16231657)
You're making my point. They made a domestic cell phone service and, despite the service working worldwide, failed to bring it to other countries.
Re:Waze Carpool by untog on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:00AM (#16231741)
You're ignoring my point. The costs internationally are far higher than they are domestically. The roaming agreements they have with those networks almost certainly prohibits full time use by a customer. Sometimes there are valid reasons to not launch a service, particularly when the whole point of it is to be low cost!

I agree with criticism when Google doesn't internationally launch something they control entirely (say, the Pixel phone). But this is not that.

Re:Waze Carpool by scrollaway on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:59AM (#16232347)
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, I'm not claiming there isn't a valid line of reasoning that gets us to the end state. Of course there are reasons and of course some of them might be outside Google's control.
Re:Waze Carpool by sneak on Thursday January 25, 2018 @10:59AM (#16231726)
“working” in this sense could mean “operating at a loss”.
Re:Waze Carpool by scrollaway on Thursday January 25, 2018 @11:57AM (#16232332)
Uber is operating at a loss worldwide. So, yes, "working" could mean "operating at a loss", it's still a valid example.

Also it's not like Fi was my entire point. My actual point was that Google has an utter crap track record at launching stuff outside the US.