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Re:The Eve programming language project is winding down by exikyut on Thursday January 25, 2018 @03:18AM (#16229544)
Education is broken, and not "impulse-fixable", ie it will require years of collective concerted effort to affect change, if it is ever fixed at all.

"A dad who knows ____ and can teach it" is, on the other hand, a practically-attainable real-world solution.

Re:The Eve programming language project is winding down by jononor on Thursday January 25, 2018 @03:45AM (#16229636)
Is it? Seems like pure luck, not like we choose our parents?
Re:The Eve programming language project is winding down by sreaching on Thursday January 25, 2018 @05:20AM (#16229961)
he would have learned it regardless of his dad teaching him - because he is smart. education can't do much to change the population distribution of intelligence.
Re:The Eve programming language project is winding down by eckza on Thursday January 25, 2018 @07:40AM (#16230404)
I don't know about that. "Being smart" isn't a big enough hammer, sometimes.

I'm "smart". I taught myself how to program, and now I'm an architect-level developer that's respected by everyone I've ever worked with. But I'm also a college dropout. I had a terrible education ("Christian" "school" with no qualified teachers) and my parents were no scholars themselves; and I gave up on college because I couldn't get a CS degree without making it through Calc 1, which I didn't even get to until my second year of college because my whole first year (and the summer prior!) was spent in remedial math.

I worked every night in the math lab with the smartest tutor I've ever met. I stayed up until 2a every night trying to get my Calc 1 homework done. But it wasn't enough. I didn't have a strong enough foundation to pull it off. It was too little, too late.

Years later, I think I'd do much better, as learning how to develop enterprise-grade data warehousing and ETL solutions has taught me /how/ to learn. But at the time, I had no good "tools" to use - I just knew how to memorize, memorize, memorize. And it just wasn't enough.

If my stupid, fucking, batshit insane religious-maniac parents had just let me go to a public high school - like I begged them to - all of this could have, and would have, been avoided.

Re:The Eve programming language project is winding down by dmitriid on Thursday January 25, 2018 @08:56AM (#16230752)
"Smart" often has nothing to do with actual IQ (if it can be measured), but with opportunities and possibilities.
Re:The Eve programming language project is winding down by HolyHaddock on Thursday January 25, 2018 @03:35AM (#16229589)
> a practically-attainable real-world solution.

I can't be understanding this correctly. Please expand, I fear otherwise this is going to be at the back of my mind all day.

Re:The Eve programming language project is winding down by michaelt on Thursday January 25, 2018 @05:50AM (#16230060)
If you are a parent with a school-aged child, and you want to fix a deficiency you perceive in calculus education, it's easier to get strong at calculus and teach your child yourself than it is to reform the education establishment.
Re:The Eve programming language project is winding down by HolyHaddock on Friday January 26, 2018 @11:22AM (#16240347)
Thank you for the clarification.