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Re:Algorithmic decision making and the cost of fairness (2017) by kosmet on Thursday January 25, 2018 @12:29AM (#16228984)
Then, the algorithm gives negative weight to locations where dangerous groups tend to live. That is, it infers race from other parameters.

What you should do is to keep the ratio of people classified as dangerous same among different groups. But this comes at a price as reduced classification accuracy.

Re:Algorithmic decision making and the cost of fairness (2017) by bluecalm on Thursday January 25, 2018 @01:04AM (#16229108)
>>Then, the algorithm gives negative weight to locations where dangerous groups tend to live.

Of course you don't include location. Why would anyone be ok with "you got longer sentence because you live in poor neighberhood"?

>>What you should do is to keep the ratio of people classified as dangerous same among different groups.

Sounds like a terrible idea. What if there is a community which just doesn't contain many dangerous people at all? If someone from this community commits a crime once in a blue moon they will be unfairly punished.

Re:Algorithmic decision making and the cost of fairness (2017) by Larrikin on Thursday January 25, 2018 @01:56AM (#16229283)
>>Sounds like a terrible idea. What if there is a community which just doesn't contain many dangerous people at all? If someone from this community commits a crime once in a blue moon they will be unfairly punished.

Now imagine if people were unfairly punished based on something they were born with and not where they lived.

Re:Algorithmic decision making and the cost of fairness (2017) by lagadu on Thursday January 25, 2018 @02:55AM (#16229462)
The justice system is meant to treat every person using the exact same criteria, as long as it's statistically relevant. That people are born in places where crime is higher isn't a problem the justice can or should handle; it's completely outside its domain of responsibility.
Re:Algorithmic decision making and the cost of fairness (2017) by taneq on Thursday January 25, 2018 @03:58AM (#16229679)
> Then, the algorithm gives negative weight to locations where dangerous groups tend to live. That is, it infers race from other parameters.

No, the algorithm just gives negative weight to locations where dangerous groups tend to live. You infer race from that measure.