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Re:Forging a Swiss Lens: How Zurich's tech scene changed my ... by mattgreenrocks on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @07:45PM (#16219369)
I’d argue SV does so well because SV is fundamentally extractive in how it uses tech. It uses tech as a way to strip mine a particular domain, often bypassing incumbents in the process. There is nothing innovative about this process. It is not ‘high’ tech so much as applied tech. Another take on this: look at the type of people that SV idolizes by and large. Are they mostly hackers? Or business people?

SV is a colony of capital B business, and they keep the makers around because they have to.

Re:Forging a Swiss Lens: How Zurich's tech scene changed my ... by jimmywanger on Wednesday January 24, 2018 @04:43AM (#16221500)
> It uses tech as a way to strip mine a particular domain, often bypassing incumbents in the process.

The term strip mine is a loaded term. In the classical sense, it devastates the ecosystem while extracting resources that are impossible to replace.

In fact, Silicon Valley does not do that. People aren't going to stop needing transportation because Uber used up all the transportation, and it won't stop needing places to stay because AirBnB lets you rent out your apartment.

> SV is a colony of capital B business

What is a capital B business as opposed to a lower case b business?

Re:Forging a Swiss Lens: How Zurich's tech scene changed my ... by mattgreenrocks on Wednesday January 24, 2018 @09:14AM (#16222768)
Strip mining is a loaded term, and a touch unfair, perhaps. But I'd argue that tech itself is a resource of sorts, and needs periodic re-investment in order to continue to sustain high growth. I do think SV strip mines tech itself. (I got these thoughts from Alan Kay, they aren't my own, but I keep thinking about them.)

Where is the Xerox PARC of 2018? Why isn't there one? We have more computing power and are economically (as a whole) better off than at any other point in history.

At some point, you have to start aiming for the moon again.

Edit: capital-B business to me is the ultra-aggressive dominate-everything mindset that seems to corrupt a lot of people.

Re:Forging a Swiss Lens: How Zurich's tech scene changed my ... by jimmywanger on Thursday January 25, 2018 @02:17AM (#16229355)
> I do think SV strip mines tech itself.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth now. Strip mining usually means something that destroys a natural resource.

You were originally talking about how Silicon Valley "strip mines a particular domain." That implies that it's strip mining other industries, such as hire for ride, etc etc. You could almost argue that they strip mined animation and movie special effects because they took profits from manual animators and movie prop creators.

I fail to see how Silicon Valley is "strip mining" tech. (Btw, something different from what you previously implied) They're grabbing low hanging fruit, but they're not ruining the resource for everybody else.

Also, to address your last point, the economies of scale are such that at this point, if you don't dominate a market, at least locally, you're dogmeat.