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Re:Hetzner Cloud by mark_l_watson on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @08:00AM (#16213203)
I don’t mind the latency. I rent a a large GPU server from them for my own machine learning experiments. Their prices are so reasonably inexpensive that this is affordable. I think it would be more expensive for them to provide the same service in the USA - I base this in pricing. OVH is the only local provider I have used that is somewhat price competitive.
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by kuschku on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @11:35AM (#16214846)
A fair warning to you: IMMEDIATELY TURN OFF UPDATES FOR THE NVIDIA DRIVER

Since a few weeks ago, Nvidia changes their driver ToS, and any new versions of the driver are not permitted to be used in datacenters (except for crypto mining).

See more here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15983587

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Re:Hetzner Cloud by toomuchtodo on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @12:17PM (#16215222)
Nvidia is going to have a difficult time enforcing that in the EU (where Hetzner operates).
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by kuschku on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @12:21PM (#16215254)
That is a good point, but if a US citizen rents a server from Hetzner, they might still be affected. Better safe than sorry.
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by zzzcpan on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @12:28PM (#16215333)
How do you see Nvidia enforcing it on individuals?
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by kuschku on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @12:33PM (#16215376)
Not necessarily now, but if you decide to turn that little ML project into a startup, staying on the same infrastructure at first, Nvidia might just come after you.

Considering this is HN, it's a pretty safe assumption that people are running these side projects to turn them into startups.

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Re:Hetzner Cloud by zzzcpan on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @12:39PM (#16215440)
How would they know your startup is doing ML violating their EULAs? I really don't see how this can be a concern for anyone, but very few companies.
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by mark_l_watson on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @09:24PM (#16219833)
Thanks for the heads up. I don;t plan on updating the drivers - everything works fine and hopefully nvidia drivers don’t need security updates.
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by ovao on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @11:57AM (#16215024)
The terms of service would (potentially) only apply to Hetzner, not to users of Hetzner's services.
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by kuschku on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @12:11PM (#16215156)
The driver ToS apply to whoever installs the driver. That is you, not Hetzner.
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by ovao on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @01:47PM (#16216182)
You're right. My thinking on that wasn't quite straight.
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by cuchoi on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @09:27AM (#16213734)
Which plan do you use?
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by monotypical on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @10:20AM (#16214214)
the [EX51-SSD-GPU](https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex51-ssd-gpu) is the only GPU plan they offer
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Re:Hetzner Cloud by eb0la on Wednesday January 24, 2018 @05:04AM (#16221586)
Thanks! I thougt they didn't have GPU servers.
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