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Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by matte_black on Monday January 22, 2018 @01:38PM (#16206702)
What about some sort of electrical power hawala transaction?

I provide power in some far place with my car, and in exchange the power supplier gives an equivalent amount of power to my air conditioner for free for as long as I’m providing power.

Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by pm90 on Monday January 22, 2018 @02:00PM (#16206909)
Wow that is actually a really interesting idea! The problem with that approach would be trust: to trust that both parties hold their part of the bargain. There's likely to be a cryptographic solution to ensure that though, right?
Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by zhjansbnas on Monday January 22, 2018 @02:11PM (#16207007)
Why do we need any of this? Physics takes care of it if we just hook everyone up to a grid. Electricity pretty much finds the sources and sinks by itself if you provide capacity (it’s more complicated that that, but simpler than what you are proposing). It’s kind of like saying why don’t we pump and sell well water to one another instead of using a common water supply where the runoff from all our land goes to the same pipes.
Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by pm90 on Monday January 22, 2018 @02:29PM (#16207151)
> Why do we need any of this? Physics takes care of it if we just hook everyone up to a grid.

That's exactly what is the bottleneck: the grid. Operating a grid, eating transmission losses etc. cost a lot of capital and labor. Not to mention: its also a single point of failure. Whereas communication (through cellphone towers) is cheap(er).

> It’s kind of like saying why don’t we pump and sell well water to one another instead of using a common water supply where the runoff from all our land goes to the same pipes.

Its not the same, and I don't think its a good comparison. Solar energy is much more plentiful than groundwater, and does not require any "processing".

Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by zhjansbnas on Monday January 22, 2018 @08:46PM (#16210163)
Grid storage is the bottleneck today. You make the problem worse by splitting things up.
Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by matte_black on Monday January 22, 2018 @04:51PM (#16208268)
Maybe this is one example of a use case for blockchain technology.

With hawala the trust depends purely on a money brokers reputation.