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Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by toomuchtodo on Monday January 22, 2018 @01:04PM (#16206428)
You're already seeing utility scale battery storage displace the most expensive oil and natural gas peakers who operate less than hundreds of hours per year (Tesla has an additional order in Australia, and a new order in New Zealand after the press from the Hornsdale Power Reserve [1]).

The winners will be renewables, battery storage owners who can arbitrage, and technology companies who can arbitrage using distributed resources in partnership with owners of those resources (ie Tesla and company).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornsdale_Wind_Farm#Hornsdale_...

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Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by JohnStudio on Monday January 22, 2018 @01:06PM (#16206444)
Minus Elon Musk ... like who are the big players though?
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Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by toomuchtodo on Monday January 22, 2018 @01:07PM (#16206456)
Can you be more specific? There are "big players" in utility solar/wind generator installation, utilities themselves, battery storage manufacturers, etc. I'd like to be as helpful as I can be in explaining, but I need the question constrained.

There is no cartel that "owns" a distributed generation and transmission future. Transmission systems operators are typically non-profits, utilities are heavily regulated, which leaves opportunities for generators (solar, wind, natural gas, batteries), residential consumers (rooftop solar), and industrial consumers (load shedding, batteries for reductions in demand charges, on-site colo generation).

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Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by xbmcuser on Wednesday January 24, 2018 @01:57AM (#16220894)
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/22/briti...

How about this guy he is building a battery factory in australia and is trying to buy part of GM's car manufacturing plant that was shutdown.

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Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday January 24, 2018 @10:38AM (#16223464)
This is awesome! Thank you for sharing!
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Re:Analysts See Oil Demand Peaking by 2030 as Electric Vehic... by EngineerBetter on Monday January 22, 2018 @01:13PM (#16206502)
Siemens.

https://electrek.co/2018/01/11/aes-siemens-launch-fluence-en...

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