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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by piyush_soni on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:55AM (#16203983)
Again, your understanding is that intelligent people have the right to abuse. That's just akin to supporting oppression of weaker by stronger. That might be how things are for a lot of people, but not how they should be. Also, mad internet people have historically changed a lot of things, so I'm justified in showing my disapproval even if it won't change Linus. Changing at least one upcoming Linus in life would be a good enough goal.
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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by syshum on Monday January 22, 2018 @10:06AM (#16204829)
>> right to abuse.

Equating harsh even personally offensive language to "abuse" is the biggest disagreement here.

Many people, myself included, prescribe to axiom of "sticks and stones will break my bones but words can never hurt me" I understand that the current generation believes that feels are the most important thing ever...

I reject the idea that a person has the right not be offended, and I reject the idea that words on a linux mailing list are abuse

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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by FuckOffNeemo on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:18PM (#16209557)
Started writing a response before reading your own, I think you've nailed my perspective on the matter.

Abuse is not offense, offense is not abuse.

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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by piyush_soni on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @06:25AM (#16212690)
Oxford dictionary says otherwise. Replied to the parent comment with references.
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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by piyush_soni on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @06:19AM (#16212663)
It doesn't matter what meaning you personally attribute to it, harsh, deliberately insulting language is "verbal abuse". References:

1. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/abuse

(Look for meaning 3)

2. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/abuse

Look for 'verbal abuse'.

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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by piyush_soni on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @08:19AM (#16213321)
Not sure what made you think all these things you're writing. By abuse I simply meant 'verbal abuse'. You yourself first apply hyperbolic meaning to the word, and then say it's not that. The whole argument is kind of strange to me. And when did showing dictionary meaning of the dictionary word I'm using start to be a fallacy of argument?
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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by syshum on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @09:00AM (#16213566)
Either you are trolling, or naive into the Politically Correct Social Justice world around you if you do not understand the point of view I am speaking against.

World where people are fired from their jobs because they tell a joke someone finds offensive, I world where you are just one twit or one overheard conversation away from the outrage mob ruining your life..

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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by piyush_soni on Wednesday January 24, 2018 @12:41AM (#16220596)
I think others have clearly communicated who they think is the troll by flagging.
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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by syshum on Wednesday January 24, 2018 @06:34AM (#16221939)
lol... No Social Justice Advocates hate freedom of speech as you seem to as well. Flagging is an indication they they disapprove of my views and would like to censor it. It is indication they do not believe in the concept of free speech
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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by piyush_soni on Thursday January 25, 2018 @06:26AM (#16230173)
:) Everyone who disagrees with you is either a troll, 'social justice advocate', and what not. Freedom of speech is a legal right, but civilized behavior is an basic expectation and as a privately managed forum HN can enforce their own expected behavior. Your arguments were anyway not constructive as per their guidelines. No further argument from me.
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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by Retra on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @12:31AM (#16211270)
Maybe you should be more concerned about people who are actually threats to you, rather than those who just use language you don't like.
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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by piyush_soni on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @06:15AM (#16212629)
I'm already more concerned about the people who are an actual threat to me, just that I'm also concerned about prolific people using abusive language to insult lesser intelligent people. If I write in the tone that everybody else here is writing in support of Linus' abusive language, I'd say "I am what I am, get over it".
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