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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by MaxBarraclough on Monday January 22, 2018 @06:18AM (#16203509)
I'm inclined to disagree on all points.

As sundvor already pointed out, Linus's cursing works. He uses it for emphasis, to bring attention to bear where it's needed. Being polite would likely be less effective.

> If a specific individual is unable to communicate without that, that's a totally different matter - being able to accommodate a wide church of people is a crucial diversity matter.

So shouldn't you be OK with Linus cursing?

I disagree here too, though. Cursing is a choice, not a disability.

If, say, a firm fires someone for failing to maintain a civil tongue, I'd hardly call that a diversity problem. It could be quite reasonable, depending on the firm.

> I'm arguing against that the notion that this approach is necessary, not that it shouldn't be accommodated

Define 'necessary'. Would the kernel implode if Linus were more polite? Of course not, but I still agree with sundvor that Linus uses it as an effective tool. He's not just an angry child with poor impulse control.

Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by piyush_soni on Monday January 22, 2018 @06:47AM (#16203671)
Linus' cursing works because he's Linus, not because he is cursing. There is really no evidence that if he uses strong but less abusive language the work won't get done.
Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by icelancer on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:23AM (#16203835)
>> There is really no evidence that if he uses strong but less abusive language the work won't get done.

That is because there is no other copy of Linus. There's plenty of other lesser software developers who can't do a tenth of what Linus did in his life.

Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by chipotle_coyote on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:58PM (#16209833)
There's also no other copy of Donald Knuth, or Dennis Ritchie, or Alan Kay, or any other computer luminary. There's also no other copy of any "other lesser software developer" or you or me or the baristas at your closest Starbucks. What you've said in response is "the sky is blue": indisputably true and essentially irrelevant.

I'd argue that in fact, there is circumstantial evidence that brilliant computer programmers can get work done without occasionally making those they interact with miserable: that evidence is the fact that most brilliant computer programmers get work done without occasionally making those they interact with miserable. There is nothing that requires Linus to make strong points by jumping and down and screaming. That's an affection he deliberately chooses.

There's a strong notion through this whole comment thread of "if he didn't do that, nobody would listen to him," which is absolute nonsense. People don't listen to him because of these kinds of outbursts, they listen to him because he's Linus Torvalds. They listen to him in spite of these kinds of outbursts.

Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by dTal on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @02:35AM (#16211724)
>People don't listen to him because of these kinds of outbursts

Check the title of the thread you're in, and how many comments it has. People absolutely listen to him when he has these outbursts. It's usually a solid indicator there's something worth getting outraged about.

Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by piyush_soni on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:27AM (#16203851)
And that somehow entitles him to insult everyone he wants to, so frequently?
Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by icelancer on Monday January 22, 2018 @07:31AM (#16203869)
> so frequently

I am guessing you don't read the Linux mailing list if you think Linus goes off like this regularly. Maybe you're confusing it with the OpenBSD list and Theo.

Linus' comments like this make the news because of the content. If he did this all the time - frequently, as you posit - it wouldn't make the news all that often, as it would be normal. Linus isn't a guy who flies off the handle with regularity.