Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for unclear reasons.”

Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by cthalupa on Monday January 22, 2018 @05:58AM (#16203437)

Part of the problem is Linus doesn't actually understand the different portions of what Intel is doing, and is mixing up IBPB and IBRS. They do different things, and he's thinking they're all part of the same thing.

This could be a sign that these things are poorly written and need to be refactored into something more obvious, or it could be that they're so fundamentally complex that it's going to be difficult to grasp without context.

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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by wtetzner on Monday January 22, 2018 @01:47PM (#16206784)

> or it could be that they're so fundamentally complex that it's going to be difficult to grasp without context.

If it is that fundamentally complex, then it sounds like they need to find a better solution.

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Re:Linus Torvalds: “Somebody is pushing complete garbage for... by cthalupa on Tuesday January 23, 2018 @02:35AM (#16211725)

I don't disagree, but they are working under a time crunch trying to fix something that is a flaw fundamental to modern chip design.

Hopefully the goal here is to get everything to a secure state, with time to iterate and improve once everyone can sit back and breathe. Hopefully.

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