News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:The curious star appeal of Jordan Peterson by bitwize on Saturday January 20, 2018 @08:07AM (#16193198)
Yeah, he's a celeb on the derp-right because he goes hard on postmodernism and third/fourth wave feminism. That doesn't mean he agrees with the derp-right or the PUA contingent that have latched onto him.

I think he gets postmodernism wrong and frankly, so do a lot of postmodernists. I see postmodernism as "Defense Against the Dark Arts". The postmodernist's tool kit -- the silly word games, denial of reality, and so forth -- are all borrowed from the right, and from capitalist society (in particular advertising and PR). And they play silly word games, talk in circles, and deny reality because they're preparing their students for a world in which the enemy have made that the norm for discourse. So when the postmodernist says "there is no reality" what they're really saying is the reality you know, and the rules for perceiving and inferring that reality, have been compromised. When Foucault says there's really no such thing as science, what he means is that science itself has been compromised, and you can't use science against the enemy because the enemy already controls it and will turn around and use it against you.

But I like Peterson's style -- bombastic without being antagonistic, and highly principled -- and about the psychology bits he has some really interesting things to say.

Re:The curious star appeal of Jordan Peterson by zo1 on Saturday January 20, 2018 @10:49AM (#16193741)
Seriously? The "derp-right"? You couldn't convey your points without resulting to that?
Re:The curious star appeal of Jordan Peterson by kirghiz on Saturday January 20, 2018 @11:09AM (#16193815)
Foucault's argument and its less literate successors (eg the one about the master's house and tools) are ultimately reactionary and quietist. Not to mention historically nonsenical, but that never got in Michel's way when he was on a rhetorical roll.

Forget Foucault (h/t Baudrillard)