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Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by carlmr on Friday January 19, 2018 @07:59AM (#16185869)
I still buy on Amazon, but only what they sell directly. Nothing 3rd party.
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by teh_klev on Friday January 19, 2018 @08:01AM (#16185884)
Isn't there still a danger of co-mingling fake stuff with what looks like a genuine item sold by Amazon?
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by alistairSH on Friday January 19, 2018 @09:03AM (#16186218)
Yes, my understanding is, at least in some cases, the fulfillment centers mingle items from different sellers. So, if you're buying "Band X Widget Y", and there are multiple "Fulfilled by Amazon" sellers, and one of those sellers introduces counterfeits, then the whole pool of Widgets is now suspect.
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by jjuel on Friday January 19, 2018 @09:22AM (#16186354)
However, you would probably avoid what happened to this guy in the story since it would be coming from their fulfillment centers. You more than likely wouldn't be tagged as importing counterfeit goods.
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by alistairSH on Friday January 19, 2018 @10:03AM (#16186680)
True. You avoid being labelled a counterfeiter (or importer thereof).

But, you still run the risk of being shipped widgets that will [combust|impale|disintegrate|other calamity]

Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by teh_klev on Friday January 19, 2018 @09:10AM (#16186261)
Thanks, that's what I thought. Because there's no way Amazon are going to have separate bins for SKU's they sell, and those in the co-mingled "seller" bins; it'd be a huge waste of space, and they'd have a much less wider range of SKU's to punt.
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by rahimnathwani on Friday January 19, 2018 @11:03AM (#16187196)
You're assuming they need a bin per SKU. They don't. Multiple SKUs can share a bin. Google 'Amazon random stow'
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by teh_klev on Friday January 19, 2018 @11:11AM (#16187260)
Thanks!....I had no idea about the "random stow" thing.
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by krapp on Friday January 19, 2018 @11:00AM (#16187170)
It's not a matter of it being a waste of space, even, but a waste of time. The first person in a FC to even see an item after the boxes get offloaded from the trucks is probably a stower who is being paid as little as possible to do nothing but scan whatever ASINs are in front of them and shove things into the bins as fast as possible.

Any random bin can contain books, food, electronics, jewelry, anything from anywhere as it gets picked from, restowed into, counted and recounted, etc. There's little room for quality control before items are available for purchase, because the system is optimized to get as many things listed on the site as quickly as possible. There are many ways in which the process could be made more robust, but it won't be because doing so would cost precious seconds.

Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by samfriedman on Friday January 19, 2018 @08:06AM (#16185907)
If you inspect the account/brand listed as the seller, it is much harder to get fooled by a counterfeit. Amazon-brand items sold by Amazon are pretty hard to mistake, in my experience.
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by extrapickles on Friday January 19, 2018 @08:45AM (#16186113)
Co-mingling breaks that. What happens is even though you buy from seller 1, they will send you seller 2s item if its in a warehouse closer to you.

The only way to avoid this is to by things only sold by 1 seller.

Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by skellera on Friday January 19, 2018 @12:16PM (#16187860)
Ziess lens cleaner being Sold under the Ziess account is sometimes counterfeit. The thing with that is the counterfeit destroys lens coatings.

Pretty sure this has to do with the co-mingling people are mentioning which means you can’t be sure even if it’s coming from the brand.

Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by nkrisc on Friday January 19, 2018 @08:45AM (#16186111)
That's starting to be a lot of work when I can buy from another site where inspecting the seller isn't a necessary step.
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by xioxox on Friday January 19, 2018 @08:54AM (#16186168)
I wanted to buy something yesterday, but their direct non-3rd-party offer was "This offer is reserved exclusively for Prime members." It looks like I'll buy somewhere else then...
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by StreamBright on Friday January 19, 2018 @02:46PM (#16189129)
Even than you can find counterfeit in your purchase or get ripped off another way. I got tired of them when 30% of my packages got lost and finally I could identify that it was their own delivery service that stole the packages. I called the manager about it, nothing changed.
Re:An Amazon Order Might Lock You Out of Trusted Traveler Pr... by nkrisc on Friday January 19, 2018 @08:44AM (#16186107)
I tried to but couldn't figure out what was actually third party or not. Even reviews on items that looked to be first party listings warned of fakes. Then I decided to stop wasting my time and wait for Amazon to figure their shit out.