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Re:Show HN: Collateralized Debt Agreements Using Smart Contr... by kang on Thursday January 18, 2018 @07:28PM (#16183002)
Both the points and your third point about a centralized system being able to decentralize itself - I am saying all of them are impossible (given current knowledge - unless you have secret protocols...).
Re:Show HN: Collateralized Debt Agreements Using Smart Contr... by nahollander on Thursday January 18, 2018 @07:42PM (#16183091)
For points 1 and 2, it's no secret :) See for yourself: https://whitepaper.dharma.io

For point ,: you're correct in that we (as in the crypto community in general) have yet to come up with good on-chain governance mechanisms, so its likely that robust decentralized governance systems are at least a few years away.

Re:Show HN: Collateralized Debt Agreements Using Smart Contr... by kang on Thursday January 18, 2018 @08:00PM (#16183185)
The 'underwriter' in dharma protocol is essentially current day middleman. You contradicted yourself by saying "trustlessly" in point 1 and then admitting to point 3. Point 2 is unenforceable without current legal system.
Re:Show HN: Collateralized Debt Agreements Using Smart Contr... by nahollander on Thursday January 18, 2018 @08:51PM (#16183463)
Debt agreements aren't required to be underwritten in every instance -- it's an entirely optional addition. If you want to see an example of a debt agreement in which there is no underwriter or middleman and collateral is trustlessly secured -- well, it's linked as OP :)
Re:Show HN: Collateralized Debt Agreements Using Smart Contr... by sandGorgon on Friday January 19, 2018 @03:35AM (#16184880)
Oh this is interesting. In India, debt agreements have to be underwritten. Moreover, this right is a hard-to-get license that is granted by the central bank - Reserve Bank of India. Not sure what the regulations are in other countries.

Underwriting is a heavily regulated process in most countries with licensing requirements. You could claim that you do not underwrite yourself,so don't fall under regulatory purview. Interestingly your model will fall under the P2P regulations of India and China - where there are specific models where the marketplace does not underwrite, but risk is assumed by lender. Or - you have to make sure that the underwriters are regulated entities.

P.S. I run a lending startup in India. We primarily look at the Blockchain as a means to solve the credit history problem in India.