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Re:Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA by userbinator on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @10:03PM (#16165132)
I thought this item would be related to that very popular item... I saw it mentioned in discussion.

At work I just recently managed to trip it three times in one day, which I consider a record since in the past I've encountered it at most a few times a week. What's more infuriating is that my queries were far less complex than the ones that tripped it before (trying to find information about some API constants), basically one quoted term and one site: modifier. I can understand if I was querying 24/7 and hogging their servers (in which case a nice "please slow down" message would be much better), but it tripped within a few minutes of, admittedly intense, Googling.

The security device may notify the attacker device that the solution is incorrect regardless of whether the solution is actually correct.

In Google's case, it doesn't do that at all --- solve one CAPTCHA successfully and all you get is another, immediately. If you actually do deliberately give the wrong answers, it does tell you they were incorrect.

I wonder what can be done to stop it from doing that, besides the old tactic of evading IP bans by changing IP --- it's somewhat creepy to think that it's probably capable of detecting that too and banning the entire subnet. On second thought, it might be worth it... if it means I can get thousands of others blocked from Google for a nontrivial amount of time, all the more mouths to complain and maybe force some reconsideration. I am not a robot. I am not a competitor scraping your pages or doing anything else against your ToS. I am just an intelligent human with over two decades of Internet searching experience enthusiastically using your service for the exact purpose it claims to do: to find something on the Internet.

Re:Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA by RobertRoberts on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @11:23PM (#16165451)
>In Google's case, it doesn't do that at all --- solve one CAPTCHA successfully and all you get is another, immediately.

I have experienced Google doing the endless captcha when using Opera's built in VPN.

The first time I went through about 3 captchas and then I "knew" they were messing with me.

So, now, I just change my location in the VPN, and get back the searching...

Re:Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA by josteink on Wednesday January 17, 2018 @04:51AM (#16166718)
> I am not a robot. I am not a competitor scraping your pages or doing anything else against your ToS. I am just an intelligent human with over two decades of Internet searching experience enthusiastically using your service for the exact purpose it claims to do: to find something on the Internet.

Maybe it’s time to stop using Google and use another search engine which actually treat you like a human being, like DuckDuckGo.

Re:Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA by userbinator on Wednesday January 17, 2018 @05:59AM (#16166968)
That's what I do whenever it comes up. For the longest time I used Google because they had the biggest index, but if they're not keen on letting people actually make use of it, then DDG and the others suddenly look a lot more appealing.
Re:Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA by Santosh83 on Wednesday January 17, 2018 @03:54AM (#16166482)
Happened to me too, but not over my normal DSL IP, but while browsing through Tor. As you note, one CAPTCHA is replaced by another seemingly without end. I gave up after 3 or so tries and switched to DDG, which is what I use when browsing over Tor. It's Google's loss, certainly not mine.

Which shows how important it is for Internet health that we have search competitors to Google who maintain their own indexes. No one company should become the sole practical gateway to the Net.

Re:Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA by cm2187 on Wednesday January 17, 2018 @03:21AM (#16166337)
Happened to me as well. As far as I can tell bing doesn’t seem to do that, or at least it is harder to trigger.