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Re:It can all go to zero by danhak on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @08:30PM (#16164705)
> I'm not asserting that scarcity or effort alone create value, but without those two components you won't have value.

That's literally exactly what you asserted:

> The opposite of this is where Bitcoin derived it's value. First there is a fixed number of Bitcoin, so you can't simply make more past a point. Secondly, the effort required to mine Bitcoin increases over time.

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