Re:What Makes the Hardest Equations in Physics So Difficult?
by Retric on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @06:48PM
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The other side of this is cells are also really fast. Modeling even 0.01 seconds could be very useful.
Re:What Makes the Hardest Equations in Physics So Difficult?
by SAI_Peregrinus on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @07:35PM
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Much of the action inside cells is done via proteins. It's taken a huge amount of distributed computing power just to figure out a reasonable hypothesis for how they fold (only one part of the movement) and €1.22 billion to build the XFEL and have a way to image them on the required timescales: 1-2 femtoseconds. 0.000000000000001 seconds. 0.01 seconds is an eternity, calculating that long would take an utterly enormous amount of computer time.
Re:What Makes the Hardest Equations in Physics So Difficult?
by Retric on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @09:10PM
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You can spend similar amounts of processing power (or vastly more) modeling a single atom over much shorter time scales from quantum mechanics. Protean folding while important results on fairly stable configurations and you don't need the same granularity after that point.
PS: Also of note protean folding simulations don't even simulate the water surrounding the protean and are again very simplified.
However, as particles start moving around faster and faster, the distance they can travel in one time step increases, and the neighborhood of effect increases, limiting the speedup of this optimization. This matters less in larger scale simulations like of weather patterns, because you don't have to worry about air molecules zipping to the other side of the continent in one second. But it matters a lot in small scale simulations, especially in cells. As an example, an average glucose molecule in one of your cells is bouncing around at around 250 miles per hour! That's not 250 miles when scaled up, that's really 250 miles per hour. A molecule in your body is colliding with another billions of times every second. (Source: http://www.righto.com/2011/07/cells-are-very-fast-and-crowde...). At that scale and that level of activity it becomes much harder to simulate each time step.