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Re:“Swatter” Tyler Barriss Charged with Involuntary Manslaug... by jopsen on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @05:45AM (#16157212)
I don't think Americans should be demonized... Having met a lot of you, I know you're not all crazy. So yeah, I'm obviously being a little provocative :)

But I do something wonder if you just don't want the problems solved? The solutions seems obvious, and yet you keep getting side tracked, like blaming the prankster.

Other than police training and changes in behavior, what real solutions do you see?

Re:“Swatter” Tyler Barriss Charged with Involuntary Manslaug... by DoreenMichele on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @05:51AM (#16157240)
In this specific case, holding the caller responsible. When someone goes out of their way to hide the origin of the call using special equipment, that is not the same as some dumb 10 year old being handed the phone and dared to dial 911 and make something up.

The fact that the US has a general problem with police shootings is absolutely not a reason to let the caller off the hook. If anything, it is a reason to argue that he reasonably knew this could result in someone's death, so the charge should be more serious than manslaughter.

Re:“Swatter” Tyler Barriss Charged with Involuntary Manslaug... by jopsen on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @06:48AM (#16157488)
> The fact that the US has a general problem with police shootings is absolutely not a reason to let the caller off the hook. If anything, it is a reason to argue....

This means proving that it is foreseeable that the police would arbitrarily shoot people, when called to an incident.

I guess it would be poetic Justice if the prosecutor used this case to prove why the police should be disbanded. If indiscriminate killing is an expected outcome from calling the police, what purpose do they serve?

Re:“Swatter” Tyler Barriss Charged with Involuntary Manslaug... by DoreenMichele on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @06:57AM (#16157540)
Deescalation is complicated, especially when you are talking an entire nation. It does not help the matter to say that the caller is not responsible because the police are so bad.

I have had a class in conflict management. It never helps to increasingly vilify one side and say that anything goes for the other because of it.

That seems to be the gist of the argument most people here are making. It doesn't work, so that isn't how you gradually create less conflict in the US.

But rationality is seemingly not welcome here. Everyone wants to just crucify the police.

So I think I need to just bow out here.