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Re:Antique BeOS Content by Scot Hacker (2011) by Fnoord on Monday January 15, 2018 @07:02AM (#16149986)
That's just an argumentum ad misericordiam (appeal to pity, sob story). These modifications to the Linux kernel weren't even the core of the TiVo product, and the TiVo product was an end user solution consisting of hardware, software, and support (so a full stack, like an Apple TV or an Nvidia Shield). He's also ignoring the patent argument, and the fact that the Linux kernel is licensed under GPLv2 or later (EDIT: I stand corrected; licensed under GPLv2. That doesn't change the point though).

His argument wasn't rare back in those days though (we're talking about a time where Microsoft was still dominant and actively hampering the FOSS movement), and it was an argument for BSD license as well.

The way companies have worked around GPLv2 and GPLv3 is Web 2.0/3.0: HTTP(S) and HTML/JS being proprietary software, though the source is readable, and the entire stack behind it (ie. akin to LAMP) which generates the data having the ability to be part of a closed source or proprietary ecosystem. They furthermore locked it down with things like paywalls, apps (instead of website or PWA which might give the users some power back). In such a world, how can us mere mortal users even verify things like GDPR?

The FSF foresaw this, btw, and IIRC (at the very least free software advocates foresaw it) considered having the GPLv3 apply on protocols like HTTP(S). That didn't fly though, and resulted in obvious backfire as well because it went against the business model of many for profits...

Re:Antique BeOS Content by Scot Hacker (2011) by Squithrilve on Monday January 15, 2018 @07:29AM (#16150079)
> ...the fact that the Linux kernel is licensed under GPLv2 or later.

Actually Linux is licenced only under GPLv2:

> The only one of any note that I'd like to point out directly is the clarification in the COPYING file, making it clear that it's only _that_ particular version of the GPL that is valid for the kernel.

> ...

> Why? There's been some discussions of a GPL v3 which would limit licensing to certain "well-behaved" parties, and I'm not sure I'd agree with such restrictions - and the GPL itself allows for "any version" so I wanted to make this part unambigious as far as my personal code is concerned.

Source: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0009.1/0096.html

Re:Antique BeOS Content by Scot Hacker (2011) by rkowalick on Monday January 15, 2018 @10:01AM (#16150872)
Here is an excellent video of Linus talking about why he specifically chose the GPLv2 and how he felt betrayed when the FSF released GPLv3:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PaKIZ7gJlRU