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Re:How do plutonium-powered pacemakers work? by shagie on Sunday January 14, 2018 @09:34PM (#16148066)
Not that long... or rather, it could work for a very long time but wouldn't be that useful because of the low power provided.

From Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_ge...

Plutonium-238 has a half-life of 87.7 years, reasonable power density of 0.54 watts per gram - that's heat energy.And then there's math on that which has a rather low efficiency (somewhere around 23% for a stirling engine approach). And well... its hot. And how old is your phone? I don't think my 20 year old phone would still work... why charge power it with something that would last 30 years when the technology that drive it is gone in half a decade.

Re:How do plutonium-powered pacemakers work? by gji on Sunday January 14, 2018 @10:14PM (#16148238)
Those numbers aren't that bad, actually. A cell phone's peak power draw isn't much more than 5W, so you'd need 10g / efficiency. At 10% efficiency, that's 100g, which is 5 cm^3 for plutonium. A cell phone battery is about 3 times that size, assuming 3000 mAh and an energy density of 600 Wh/L. Of course you'd have to build in a heat engine, but perhaps even a peltier would work given the generous efficiency allowance.
Re:How do plutonium-powered pacemakers work? by whoisthisdude on Sunday January 14, 2018 @10:27PM (#16148286)
At 10% efficiency you'd still be dumping out around 45 watts of heat in your pocket. We'll just need some aluminum pants for the heatsink!
Re:How do plutonium-powered pacemakers work? by baybal2 on Monday January 15, 2018 @01:26AM (#16148900)
Saying along those lines used to be a popular joke among Soviet nuclear scientists.
Re:How do plutonium-powered pacemakers work? by taneq on Sunday January 14, 2018 @11:10PM (#16148431)
Also you don't need peak power all the time, you just need more than your average power draw combined with a battery big enough to smooth out the gaps. I'd think the biggest problem would be your phone being dangerously hot all the time.
Re:How do plutonium-powered pacemakers work? by Retric on Monday January 15, 2018 @06:17AM (#16149849)
It's better than that. Normal iPhones have less than 8 watt hours of battery life, they simply don't need peak power much. 8/24 = 0.333w, you lose some to overhead but you also reduce power draw by 0.33w so that's a reasonable estimate. @ 20% efficient that's 1.65w of heat, but your also storing .3w so really only 1.35w of waste heat. That's a 30% heat production increase at peak which doesn't seem like a deal killer.

7 Plus has a ~30% larger battery, but can dump heat ever more area so not a big deal.