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Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by MollyR on Sunday January 14, 2018 @08:52PM (#16147859)
That first recommendation is pure genius!
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by crygin on Sunday January 14, 2018 @09:19PM (#16147989)
I saw it done with a stacked pair of dishwasher drawers (e.g.: https://www.remodelista.com/posts/appliances-dishwasher-draw... ) in a small apartment in Switzerland recently, with "clean" and "dirty" magnets that got swapped around -- there was no other dish storage. Pretty great.

My other favorite is the Italian dish drainer (a few examples here: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/759138080911631519 ) -- basically the cabinet above the sink is a dish drainer with an open bottom.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by atombender on Sunday January 14, 2018 @11:14PM (#16148445)
The drying cabinet is actually a Finnish invention [1] (although apparently preceded by a US patent that never took off). It was popular in Scandinavia for a while, and you still come across homes from the 50-60s that have them, but they're no longer popular now that most people have automatic dishwashers. My family has a mountain cabin in Norway, built in the 1950s with no dishwasher, that have these, and they're very handy.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dish_drying_cabinet

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by infinite8s on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @04:08PM (#16162609)
I never have enough dirty dishes to do a full dishwasher run, and I find I need new dishes before I've run a load, so now I just handwash and use the dishwasher as a drying rack.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by Illotus on Monday January 15, 2018 @08:00AM (#16150194)
Very nearly every home in Finland has one these still.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by jaclaz on Monday January 15, 2018 @12:21PM (#16151856)
In Italian it is called "scolapiatti", it may well have been patented in the US and be a Finnish invention (in the form suspended over the kitchen sink), but in Italy it has been a traditional tool since dishes were invented, it used to be an outside piece of furniture, more like a basket:

https://maisonderose.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/cera-una-volta...

http://www.lasoffittaretro.it/classico/48-scolapiatti-in-fer...

until houses had water (and thus sinks), I believe that as soon as sinks were installed in kitchens, the one or the other form of "scolapiatti" became in use, this is an early, primitive, type:

http://www.comune.sangiorgiodellarichinvelda.pn.it/fileadmin...

And this is another example:

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/w1600/pict/192394042552_/AAX-P...

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by kbenson on Sunday January 14, 2018 @09:21PM (#16147999)
There exist single dishwashers that provide this capability, and they may suffice depending on your dishwashing needs and average load.

1: https://www.fisherpaykel.com/us/kitchen/dish-washers/dishdra...

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by ACow_Adonis on Sunday January 14, 2018 @11:30PM (#16148485)
I recently bought an apartment after having rented a place with these drawer dishwashers.

I considered it a non-negotiable to never live with them again if given the choice. The small ones just aren't practical if you cook. Put on some rice, boil some veggies, fry up some meat, and suddenly you're already out of room. You've not done cutlery, breakfast, lunch or desert. And god help you if you cook anything more complicated than that...

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by woolvalley on Sunday January 14, 2018 @10:53PM (#16148376)
I've read that the fisher paykel dishwashers have a lot of reliability problems compared to normal dishwashers unfortunately.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by kayhi on Sunday January 14, 2018 @08:57PM (#16147885)
I’ve thought about getting like 5 and replacing all cabinets. A lower end dishwasher is about the same as a custom cabinet $150-$300).
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by booleandilemma on Sunday January 14, 2018 @09:51PM (#16148147)
At that point you could start washing your neighbors’ dishes as a service.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by bonesss on Monday January 15, 2018 @07:16AM (#16150033)
Connect those dishwashers to a cloud based backend, add in a little NLP onto the ordering interface, then slap an app and a nice slide deck on top and I think this KaaS offering could be ready for Series A funding before the summer :D
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by modoc on Monday January 15, 2018 @11:36AM (#16151505)
Then introduce a new blockchain payment coin (might I suggest DishCoin?) and you're off to the races!
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by thaumaturgy on Sunday January 14, 2018 @09:18PM (#16147983)
Assuming an average repair rate of one fault every five years, you'll be needing to service or replace one of those dishwashing cabinets every single year.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by iambateman on Sunday January 14, 2018 @09:36PM (#16148074)
Not quite. You would not quintuple your dishwashing usage, so you wouldn’t expect to quintuple your service requirements.

But double, that I would believe.

Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by kayhi on Sunday January 14, 2018 @09:54PM (#16148161)
Think of all the time savings of putting dishes away that’s what keeps me excited.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by roel_v on Monday January 15, 2018 @03:15AM (#16149264)
Don't skimp om dishwasher quality. You'd think 'hiw different can they be', but a cheap dishwasher is only slightly better than none at all (having to rinse, redoing things that weren't cleaned well, frequent breakage/blockage) whereas a good one is a life changer.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by omilu on Monday January 15, 2018 @10:23PM (#16155546)
recommendations? I have yet to find a good one.
Re:CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work by roel_v on Tuesday January 16, 2018 @08:16AM (#16157894)
Miele. Twice as expensive as most others, but they'll last 20 years.