Re:In Germany, online hate speech has real world consequences
by geococcyxc on Sunday January 14, 2018 @07:55AM
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This is at least wrong in Germany, they are handled by different courts, will not show up on criminal record etc., it's more like a civil case, but with the government. Though of course you could park your car so horribly that it might get to be one, there's criminal neglect.
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Re:In Germany, online hate speech has real world consequences
by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on Sunday January 14, 2018 @08:32AM
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Erm ... in which sense exactly is an Ordnungswidrigkeitenverfahren like a Zivilprozess? How are the courts different?
Also, yes, "but with the government" is exactly what makes it a criminal case!?
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Re:In Germany, online hate speech has real world consequences
by geococcyxc on Sunday January 14, 2018 @09:21AM
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Sorry, I was wrong about the courts, but at first it is not even handled by a court or prosecutor at all, only by the administration. If the potential fine is not accepted it then indeed goes to criminal court.
Re:In Germany, online hate speech has real world consequences
by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on Sunday January 14, 2018 @04:07PM
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Well, yes, Ordnungswidrkeiten are "Straftaten light", if you will, so consequences are generally less severe, the process has a shortcut for undisputed cases, ... but the essence is still that the state makes a member of society experience some consequences for not following the law, and thus in particular the same constitutional protections apply.