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Re:Teenagers now better behaved and less hedonistic but lone... by qubex on Sunday January 14, 2018 @05:31AM (#16143638)
You’re most welcome to reject this ”Judeo-Christian prudishness” (or whatever you want to call it) but just keep in mind I’m an atheist, and all for rejecting dogma — including the new doctrines of consumerism that is snaking it’s way into our private sphere, making us all willing to use each other (apparently) for our short-term jollies.
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Re:Teenagers now better behaved and less hedonistic but lone... by TheSpiceIsLife on Sunday January 14, 2018 @05:42AM (#16143674)
There is nothing new about us humans having short-term jollies, or even medium- / long-term jollies that are non-monogamous.

Short- / medium- / long-term non-monogamous jollies goes as far back as time immemorial. As far back as the beginnings of life itself. I'm willing to bet monogamy is the new normal as far as historical longevity is concerned. I'm no anthropologist, so I'm willing to be corrected on that matter.

Also, I'd argue consumerism isn't exactly new either. People have been blowing their pay packets at their local pub since the invention of the local pub.

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Re:Teenagers now better behaved and less hedonistic but lone... by vedloseper on Sunday January 14, 2018 @06:17AM (#16143778)
People also have been rejecting that since time immemorial, so the strength of your argument just barely suffices to eat itself.
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Re:Teenagers now better behaved and less hedonistic but lone... by TheSpiceIsLife on Sunday January 14, 2018 @06:53AM (#16143896)
That some people have been rejecting it since time immemorial doesn't mean those behaviours don't exist.

What I'm disagreeing with is this: new doctrines of consumerism that is <snip> making us all willing to use each other (apparently) for our short-term jollies.

It isn't the new doctrines of consumerism that are making us do this, it's human nature; we like to fuck.

So your argument ... isn't one.

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Re:Teenagers now better behaved and less hedonistic but lone... by vedloseper on Sunday January 14, 2018 @07:21AM (#16143959)
There's still worlds between liking to fuck and using each other like toys. Though consumerist attitudes may not be new, see e.g. that Latin dude talking about how the mind is a fire to be kindled, not a vessel to be filled.
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