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Re:iOS 11 Security [pdf] by on_and_off on Saturday January 13, 2018 @02:18PM (#16140837)
I guess my cynicism level is the issue :I don't trust Apple a whole lot than, let's say Google.

Their servers are still operating in the US, they don't have a stellar history of protecting their consumer's privacy (for example not so long ago people realized that their iPhones were sending location data to Apple.

Apple's stance on privacy seems more motivated by PR than a genuine core value of the company.

Re:iOS 11 Security [pdf] by hedora on Saturday January 13, 2018 @03:46PM (#16141295)
They’re the only commercial OS vendor that doesn’t rely on monetizing customer information to turn a profit. (I’m not sure why MS voluntarily pulled itself out of that camp).

This is why I switched away from Windows and Android. Open source phones don’t really exist, and out of the box usable desktop Linux laptops are rare, so most people in my boat land on Apple products.

Re:iOS 11 Security [pdf] by torstenvl on Saturday January 13, 2018 @02:27PM (#16140872)
People "realized" this when Apple began doing it and honestly told people about it. It is trivially easy for you to turn off location sharing permissions for iPhone Analytics if you so desire. It's right there in Settings.

https://m.imgur.com/kldOZ54

Re:iOS 11 Security [pdf] by on_and_off on Saturday January 13, 2018 @05:52PM (#16141837)
>People "realized" this when Apple began doing it and honestly told people about it

Do you have a source please ?

As I remember it people realized that a lot of data was going to Apple's server (I will try to find the original articles again)

Re:iOS 11 Security [pdf] by torstenvl on Sunday January 14, 2018 @01:35PM (#16145493)
Are you maybe talking about the location cache?[0]

That wasn't to any Apple server, it was a local cache that apps couldn't get unless they used a root exploit; was safe on your backups if they were encrypted; and was discussed in the TOS (Ars's sensationalism about "without your consent" notwithstanding).

[0] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/04/how-apple-tracks-you...

Re:iOS 11 Security [pdf] by thisacctforreal on Sunday January 14, 2018 @05:00AM (#16143555)
On the contrary; here's one about Google collecting cell tower data when location services are disabled.

https://qz.com/1131515/google-collects-android-users-locatio...

Re:iOS 11 Security [pdf] by drb91 on Saturday January 13, 2018 @02:23PM (#16140856)
Regardless of how it is motivated, it is more effective than any PR.

Also, who cares about core values beyond predicting future actions? I predict Apple will continue to invest in privacy.