Re:DNSFS – Store files in others' DNS resolver caches
by Ambroos on Friday January 12, 2018 @03:50PM
(#16136184)
Controlling network access on DNS level seems pretty ineffective to me.
Especially with things like Google DNS over HTTPS and https://github.com/pforemski/dingo ...
Re:DNSFS – Store files in others' DNS resolver caches
by cmonfeat on Friday January 12, 2018 @07:30PM
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Oh I'm with you, you've gotta put other controls in place. Still in my basic acl for every network, because it's one if the first things users will do to circumvent controls.
Re:DNSFS – Store files in others' DNS resolver caches
by yetanother1980 on Saturday January 13, 2018 @03:47AM
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It's also not uncommon to not use the default DNS settings of a network.
Doing this sounds like a good way to increase the noise to signal ratio in your support calls....
Re:DNSFS – Store files in others' DNS resolver caches
by yetanother1980 on Friday January 12, 2018 @05:17PM
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Pretty much 100% waste of time I think. Users can easily just use raw IP addresses right?
Re:DNSFS – Store files in others' DNS resolver caches
by 13of40 on Friday January 12, 2018 @06:01PM
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HTTP 1.1 servers need the host name in the request, so that a single IP can host multiple domains that resolve to it. If you just go to the IP address, you get an error or a default host. It should work fine with most other protocols, though.
Re:DNSFS – Store files in others' DNS resolver caches
by e12e on Saturday January 13, 2018 @06:10AM
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Adding to what others say here: if you have/know the ip address, you probably also know the host name. There's nothing magical about:
# from memory, syntax might not quite work
telnet 1.2.3.4 80
Http/1.1
Host: example.com
Get /
Which is indeed why you can put the ip and host name(s) in /etc/hosts - and without other network level blocks - browsers etc will just work.With http 1.0 blocking/filtering ips was enough, with 1.1 you need a proxy. With tls/ssl you have the choice between (having the capability to) decrypt everything or filter nothing. (obviously ip level filtering works, but it's a little crude in a Http 1/1 world. Ditto for http2 etc).
Re:DNSFS – Store files in others' DNS resolver caches
by toomuchtodo on Friday January 12, 2018 @07:28PM
(#16137498)
Add entry to /etc/hosts (or the windows equivalent), navigate in browser.
Too high of a hurdle for your average user though, in which case blocking sites at the DNS resolver works.
Re:DNSFS – Store files in others' DNS resolver caches
by yetanother1980 on Saturday January 13, 2018 @03:44AM
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I'm pretty sure you can send a request to an IP address with the host name in the request.
Reason being, if users on my network are using a resolvers other than my own, they can resolve all sorts of domains I would have otherwise blackholed.