Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryption to Skype

Re:Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryp... by Spivak on Thursday January 11, 2018 @03:23PM (#16127464)

This comes up a lot but the reality is that its really only nerds and spammers that self-host. It's hard to fault spam filters of being suspicious of random domains. This doesn't mean there aren't many alternatives -- just about any personal email provider will make sure they're off the blacklists.

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Re:Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryp... by e12e on Thursday January 11, 2018 @06:11PM (#16128947)

With Gmail it appears to be a question of getting on a (secret, opaque) white list.

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Re:Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryp... by Spivak on Friday January 12, 2018 @09:40AM (#16133090)

I mean that's the nature of these kinds of lists. We don't tell anyone about how we set up our firewall, do spam filtering, or flag accounts for suspicious activity because then it would be easier to circumvent.

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Re:Signal partners with Microsoft to bring end-to-end encryp... by e12e on Friday January 12, 2018 @11:46PM (#16138314)

There are plenty efficient rbl lists that are transparent. There's grey listing.

It's not like "today, you feel white-ish enough to not be silently dropped at gw, black-ish enough to go in the spam folder without warning" is the only valid policy to fight spam.

Even simply rejecting with an error (spam suspected) would be better than the silent treatment.

And I don't see anything wrong with telling people how you set up a firewall. We even write books about that.

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