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Re:House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Priv... by asimpletune on Thursday January 11, 2018 @03:15PM (#16127399)
Pelosi and Feinstein are the worst when it comes to privacy law.
Re:House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Priv... by bogomipz on Thursday January 11, 2018 @03:43PM (#16127651)
Which is something I find interesting since they are both Democrats from San Francisco - Pelosi(represents S.F, the 12th district) and Feinstein represents California but is born and bread S.F. and served as its' Mayor for a bit.
Re:House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Priv... by stevenwoo on Thursday January 11, 2018 @09:47PM (#16130024)
Personally I think both of them have been in office too long, what was progressive when they first took office is probably different from what it is now and the last town halls for both Feinstein and Pelosi were striking for how ossified and tone deaf they sounded.
Re:House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Priv... by bogomipz on Thursday January 11, 2018 @10:02PM (#16130084)
I completely agree. They are career politicians and both completely out touch. There are 79 members of the US Congress who have been there for at least 20 years[1]

And if they weren't enough, the age average of them is fairly close to retirement age:

"The average age of Members of the House at the beginning of the 114th Congress was 57.0 years; of Senators, 61.0 years."[2]

[1] https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-18/79-members-congres...

[2] https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43869.pdf

Re:House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Priv... by inferiorhuman on Thursday January 11, 2018 @10:11PM (#16130118)
Feinstein was not a liberal (or a particularly) mayor. She profited handsomely from the assassinations of Milk and Moscone though. Then again, San Francisco is not a particularly liberal place even by Bay Area standards.
Re:House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Priv... by bogomipz on Friday January 12, 2018 @12:31AM (#16130609)
I think she was always seen as centrist. I agree the Milk/Moscone tragedy helped her career but she was also elected Mayor after that in 80's. And S.F in the 1980s was very much a liberal place.
Re:House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Priv... by inferiorhuman on Friday January 12, 2018 @04:24PM (#16136422)
> And S.F in the 1980s was very much a liberal place.

Ehhh. Richmond and Oakland, yes. Berkeley? No. San Francisco? No.

Re:House Votes to Renew Surveillance Law, Rejecting New Priv... by ataturk on Thursday January 11, 2018 @04:11PM (#16127902)
But they are all big-government statists and they all walk the same way when it comes to invading citizens' privacy. It was a bad law from the start, it will always be a bad law, and it tells you everything you need to know about our current government that they keep renewing this bad law.

And no, it's not a question of "if you have nothing to hide.." it's simple, basic reality--you are not free in any sense of the word if you have East-German type surveillance up your ass 24/7.