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Re:Without right policies, automation risks shift of income ... by marcosdumay on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @04:59PM (#16119529)
> Nobody is claiming the labor market will be destroyed.

Well, let me claim it then. The labor market will eventually be destroyed. That's the end goal of automation and it is an achievable goal. It's very likely decades away what makes it both too far to be an emergency and too near to ignore.

Re:Without right policies, automation risks shift of income ... by shkkmo on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @06:34PM (#16120152)
> The labor market will eventually be destroyed. That's the end goal of automation and it is an achievable goal.

The destruction of the labor market requires more than just lots and lots of automation. You would need extremely capable general AI. Thus, I don't see the destruction of the labor market without entering a technological singularity. Since predictions about a post-singularity future are extremely hard to evaluate, I don't see how planning for it can accomplish much.

We can however make plans for the route that may lead up to that point. It behooves us to make plans for a labor market that has not been destroyed, but which is undergoing significant changes due to automation.

Re:Without right policies, automation risks shift of income ... by andrenth on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @06:45PM (#16120207)
The auto industry is heavily automated and yet more people than ever work on it now.
Re:Without right policies, automation risks shift of income ... by kilotaras on Thursday January 11, 2018 @10:25AM (#16124467)
If you're talking about US that's incorrect. There's a fall from peak 1.3m in 2000 to 940k in 2017 employees in automanufacturing[1] despite total population rising from 280m to 325m. Percentagewise it went from .46% to .28% of population.

[1] https://www.bls.gov/iag/tgs/iagauto.htm

Re:Without right policies, automation risks shift of income ... by andrenth on Friday January 12, 2018 @08:03PM (#16137640)
A 0.2% fluctuation is noise and doesn’t detract from the point. According to the automation fear mongerers we should be seeing massive unemployment.
Re:Without right policies, automation risks shift of income ... by kilotaras on Saturday January 13, 2018 @10:12AM (#16139855)
That's not a 0.2% fluctuation, but 1.6x decrease. Treating it as 0.2% would treat completely wiping automanufacturing jobs as "only", 0.46% fluctuation.
Re:Without right policies, automation risks shift of income ... by andrenth on Sunday January 21, 2018 @06:48PM (#16200812)
Again, where is the massive unemployment?