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Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by lurr on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @03:26PM (#16118713)
No. It's the republicans for the last couple decades.

Institutionally things are starting to break down because of a combination of poor design and poor implementation.

But there are so very many people who will argue that the current system is a feature not a bug.

Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @03:40PM (#16118841)
No, it's both sides for the last three or four decades.

The Democrats were unhappy with Reagan and Bush Sr. The Republicans were deeply unhappy with Clinton. The Democrats were on the border of being deranged by Bush Jr. The Republicans were deranged with Obama. Now the Democrats are absolutely insane about Trump.

(I'll give you that Trump makes it easier than any of his predecessors. Still, this has been growing since 1980, on both sides.)

Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by scarmig on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @05:38PM (#16119811)
The flaw in your analysis is that people thinking Obama is literally a half breed Antichrist from Kenya is comparable to other people thinking Trump is the worst president ever.

They're really not the same.

Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @05:43PM (#16119844)
And the flaw in your analysis is that only a handful of people thought that Obama was literally a half breed Antichrist from Kenya, while over half the country thinks that Trump is the worst president ever. (Even some people who normally vote Republican think that.)

They're really not the same.

Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by scarmig on Thursday January 11, 2018 @12:03AM (#16121507)
Yeah, only a handful of people though Obama was a half breed from Kenya. It's still disturbing that those obscure figures (like this lone whacko[0]) said stuff like

> Wake Up America! See article: "Israeli Science: Obama Birth Certificate is a Fake"

and

> He doesn't have a birth certificate, or if he does, there's something on that certificate that is very bad for him. Now, somebody told me -- and I have no idea if this is bad for him or not, but perhaps it would be -- that where it says 'religion,' it might have 'Muslim.' And if you're a Muslim, you don't change your religion, by the way.

and

> Perfect Obama's dad born in Africa, Mitt Romney's dad born in Mexico.Any pure breeds left? #CNNDebate

Surely we can agree that nasty, terrible people like that have no place in our political discourse?

[0] http://bit.ly/1PR0Fzw

Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by evgen on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @06:17PM (#16120059)
You are aware of the fact that even in 2016 more than 40% of registered Republicans thought president Obama was born in Kenya, right? It was a bit more than a handful...
Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @06:31PM (#16120136)
You did notice that scarmig said a bit more than "born in Kenya", right?
Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by maxxxxx on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @04:27PM (#16119237)
It wasn't in the US back then but from Germany it looked like they lost their minds during the Clinton years. The Levinksy thing was just ridiculous.
Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by lurr on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @07:22PM (#16120388)
Well that was brought about because of a shift in republican politics that won them congress, but has lead them down a path to being a terrible party.

Notice how people don't defend republican decisions, they just immediately go "BUT BOTH SIDES". When your only defense is whataboutism, maybe you need to stop and think for a bit.

Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @07:30PM (#16120443)
I wasn't defending. When you're only attacking one side, maybe you need to stop and think for a bit.
Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by lurr on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @08:01PM (#16120620)
No. There aren't two valid sides to every issue.
Re:North Carolina Is Ordered to Redraw Its Congressional Map by lurr on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @07:19PM (#16120377)
Sorry, but who tried to impeach a president over BS?

Who stole a supreme court seat?

Who started winning presidencies without the popular vote and ramming extremely unpopular legislation through with reconciliation?