But its not just a false sense of security. Yes, everybody that understands security will have issues with all the problems all of us know that exists. That however does not change that for user there was a real increase in security.

I would rather say it is rather disingenuous for you to claim that it is all false security just because it is not what you would consider perfect.

And that is exactly what I mean by security people giving up. Twenty years ago what I think is perfect was merely the norm. Now WhatsApp is OK and it's just me who doesn't consider it perfect.

I was just at a confrence where new more secure communications was one of the topics and there are many people working on new apps, improved protocols and working on figuring out flaws in existing products.

Everybody there understands the security constraints of Whatsapp, and believe me they can hardly shut up about it.