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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by papermule on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @06:16AM (#16114111)
Pedestrians are, with the exception of some rural areas, provided with dedicated carriage such as a pavement or sidewalk. The rules of crossing the road are well defined and in some European countries pedestrians are even arrested for J walking.
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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by mdpye on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @06:39AM (#16114240)
There is no such thing as jaywalking in the UK, it's neither an offence (with the exception of motorways, which also regulate the type of vehicle which may enter), nor a term that's widely used or understood.

Outside of cities, there are lots of roads without pavements (not just in super-rural areas). Walking on them is normal, and people know how (e.g. always walk on the right, facing oncoming traffic).

And I very much hope it stays that way. Cars should not rule our public spaces.

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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by Piskvorrr on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @06:54AM (#16114302)
s/Pedestrians are/Pedestrians ought to be/ - "meh, just plan for cars, anything else is irrelevant" is all too common.
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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by glenneroo on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @07:03AM (#16114345)
> in some European countries pedestrians are even arrested for J walking.

Not quite, however you may be ticketed, if you happen to do it in front of a grumpy officer. I have only heard of it happening to a friend of a friend and the fine was under 40 euros.

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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by heavenlyblue on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @08:51AM (#16114865)
In Baltics you’re certainly fined the moment you take your first step on the pavement. It started with a war against reckless driving and ended up in this state as of now.
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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by cup-of-tea on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @09:20AM (#16115032)
"Some rural areas" is in reality almost every mile of road outside of towns. You've clearly never walked in the countryside.
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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by papermule on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @12:13PM (#16116720)
> You've clearly never walked in the countryside.

I've lived in the countryside for 14 years. I don't walk on the roads where I live. The roads are narrow and there is no place to walk as the side of the roads are raised embankments built from tree roots. Looks like this: http://c8.alamy.com/comp/C41G6T/country-lane-with-trees-form...

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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by tmnvix on Wednesday January 10, 2018 @04:55PM (#16119504)
> The roads are narrow and there is no place to walk

The place to walk in that situation is on the road. As someone who has decades of experience as a pedestrian, that road looks eminently walkable.

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Re:A Type of Road Junction that Kills Cyclists by cup-of-tea on Thursday January 11, 2018 @08:34AM (#16123676)
The roads are narrow, so you don't walk? What? That makes no sense.

Living somewhere that you can't even walk around sounds like some kind of prison. How do you get around? It sounds like you are unable to get around without burning fossil fuels. How does that make you feel?

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