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Re:Beijing bets on facial recognition in a big drive for tot... by schuke on Sunday January 07, 2018 @11:26PM (#16094645)
I'm not defending surveillance in the US, but given the very different institutions and political systems involved, maybe different conclusions can be consistent?

Snowden is a hero by the way.

Re:Beijing bets on facial recognition in a big drive for tot... by tmalsburg2 on Monday January 08, 2018 @03:03AM (#16095329)
Note, though, that most Chinese people will use the exact same argument to justify the actions of their government.
Re:Beijing bets on facial recognition in a big drive for tot... by ttflee on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:10AM (#16095772)
From what I know about posts circulated in WeChat timeline, I would bet that most Chinese have already been brainwashed that national security should be defended at all cost and that Edward Snowden is a traitor whose action indirectly benefited motherland China, and therefore he should be applauded but not be learned from. Think the Nineteen Eighty-Four.
Re:Beijing bets on facial recognition in a big drive for tot... by iforgotpassword on Monday January 08, 2018 @05:56PM (#16101647)
A fair amount of people think the same about our national security, but they're obviously not brainwashed, just good old patriots.
Re:Beijing bets on facial recognition in a big drive for tot... by pas on Monday January 08, 2018 @01:02PM (#16098497)
That's true, and their argument is valid, assuming they really are okay with trading off some potential increase in short term security with a rather certain long term oppression.
Re:Beijing bets on facial recognition in a big drive for tot... by YeGoblynQueenne on Monday January 08, 2018 @07:02AM (#16096167)
The question is how different the two political systems are, if they're both constantly spying on their population, and nobody can really do anything about it in either case.
Re:Beijing bets on facial recognition in a big drive for tot... by woodandsteel on Monday January 08, 2018 @09:12PM (#16102939)
One difference is that in China dissidents are thrown in prison in large numbers.
Re:Beijing bets on facial recognition in a big drive for tot... by crdoconnor on Monday January 08, 2018 @08:00AM (#16096394)
I suspect the WaPo's apparent hypocrisy is driven by actual hypocrisy - not biting the hand that feeds it. The CIA is a very big client of Amazon's.