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Re:How Tier 2 cloud vendors banded together to cope with Spe... by mschuster91 on Saturday January 06, 2018 @08:48PM (#16088614)
> and the ME MSRs are also not exposed.

This is the core question: is this isolation absolutely perfect, or can it be pierced in any way? Something on a severity level like Spectre/Meltdown - people would have laughed you off the stage half a year ago when you told 'em you could read kernel memory from Javascript without exploiting both the browser and the kernel - is IMHO certain to be present in either of the "management" solution, and I'd like to be prepared when the bomb explodes.

Re:How Tier 2 cloud vendors banded together to cope with Spe... by dogma1138 on Sunday January 07, 2018 @09:48AM (#16091002)
I don’t think any serious security person would have laughed you off for mentioning side channel attacks.

No isolation is perfect but and that is an important but for virtualization you have much higher control over what instruction you allow through so an attach which is specific to ME isn’t likely.

That said you can have a side channel attack that allows you to compromise the hypervisor and from it you can jump to the ME but this is a different story.