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Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by RobbyMcCullough on Saturday January 06, 2018 @12:21PM (#16086257)
I took a trip up to Oregon for the eclipse over the summer. One of my campmates filled their water containers from the Shasta spring on the way up. Untreated. Unfiltered. Straight from the mouth of the spring.

Despite my better judgment, I tried some and it was by far and away the best tasting water I've ever experienced in my life. I stopped at the same spring on the way home, filled up a 5-gallon water jug, and cherished every last drop.

I was aware of the risks and I think it's an alarming trend as well, but gosh darn that water tasted amazing.

Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by mantas on Saturday January 06, 2018 @12:48PM (#16086460)
Of course it varies around the world, but in my whereabouts there're few rules-of-thumb regarding such springs:

- some popular springs are tested by gov/parks regularly and even have results sheet attached

- knowingly bad springs are marked. Maybe as simple as "do not drink" on a sheet of paper in a plastic bag.

- most good springs are prepared. At least home-made step to come without walking in the water/mud, cup to drink from etc. If spring is regularly used by locals - what to worry?

If spring doesn't match any of these - use your judgement. Moving water is good. Stale water is risky. Settlement upstream or on the hill - risky. Farm - very risky!

Boiling is good. Another good idea is hiking bottles with water filters. They do affect taste more than boiling though. I think they're usually carbon-based and/or UV?

Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by JonnyNova on Saturday January 06, 2018 @12:56PM (#16086502)
I once drank lake water in Iceland during winter. The only reason I could be convinced to do so was because it was Iceland during the winter. It was absolutely fantastic. Easily the best tasting water I've had by an order of magnitude.
Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by 13of40 on Saturday January 06, 2018 @02:19PM (#16086941)
I once drank water from a natural spring in Kolomenskoye Park in the middle of Moscow. Tasted great with no ill effects. Don't know if it's safe for chronic consumption though.
Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by mantas on Saturday January 06, 2018 @11:33PM (#16089178)
95% it is safe. If it wasn't, it'd be marked as such. The spring doesn't need much space. Rain drops, gets filtered by sand and soil, comes out from a spring down bellow. A park of few hundred square meters is more than enough to be a safe filter.

Source: drink frequently from springs in/around towns.

Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by johan_larson on Saturday January 06, 2018 @12:30PM (#16086330)
I once drank a bottle of lake water straight from the lake, way out in the wilderness in northern Ontario. No negative effects. I don't remember the water tasting particularly good or bad.
Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by myaso on Sunday January 07, 2018 @08:04AM (#16090734)
Ugh. Don't do that. The water is disgusting in Ontario. There are some pretty strong guidelines regarding eating fish from there too. Heard stories from people who need to test it and filter it for injectables. It's not out in the wilderness, but it's still a good idea to just avoid it. So you drank one bottle that's different from sustained consumption.
Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by rohit2412 on Saturday January 06, 2018 @12:29PM (#16086328)
Does boiling destroy taste?
Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by RobbyMcCullough on Saturday January 06, 2018 @12:32PM (#16086349)
My strategy was to wait a day or two and see if my buddy got sick before I tried it. But, yeah, after seeing the other comment here, boiling probably would have been a good idea!
Re:Food-safety expert warns Silicon Valley $60 ‘raw water’ t... by mantas on Saturday January 06, 2018 @12:49PM (#16086468)
Most likely yes. Boiling brings the water closer to purified water.