Re:Learning to Code as a Woman Changed My Life
by candiodari on Saturday January 06, 2018 @05:43AM
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> But telling groups of marginalized peoples (like women and especially women of color), against whom the societal cards are already very much stacked, that simply “believing in themselves” is the secret to getting what they want out of life is not only preposterous, it’s disingenuous, it’s poisonous—you could go so far as to call it traitorous. This type of thinking implies that the problem lies within us, the marginalized, the oppressed, within our attitudes, and not the fault of the inherently sexist, racist, and classist society we must struggle to thrive within.
So the reason that just telling (in this case) women to believe in themselves doesn't make them millionaires (read the rest of the article) is the fault of society, and must mean that society is classist, sexist, racist ?
I mean if that's the reasoning, then yes. Absolutely.
It pains me to read stuff like this, because there is no shortage of immigrants, significant numbers of them women, try their hand at a business in the center of the city. Some succeed, a lot fail. It is hard to read articles like this because unlike the author of this article (and even she is a standout among the people she describes), they spent years trying, with most of that time working for below minimum wage. The author of this article, I get the distinct impression has a level of effort measured in weeks, maybe months.
According to the author, the reason that just starting out and competing with very little effort against people who spend years of, not 9-to-5, but 7am-to-9pm days working at a business, the reason that that fails ... is that society is racist. And when it comes to coding, most people actually worked for 4+ years, something like 6-8 hours per day constantly, with very significant upticks in that during exams. The reason you can't best them after one "self-actualization" seminar, clearly, is racism and sexism.
No.
It isn't.
And yes, there are plenty of locals that "succeed" (to some extent) despite being morons. That's the same everywhere (seen it in at least 9 big cities around the world now, one of which was not first world, the rich being brown skinned (poor too of course) and it was much worse of a rich-poor divide than any western city I've ever seen). And it's not fair that that doesn't apply to you. But it doesn't apply to 90% of people, and probably doesn't apply to 99% of immigrants, and women of color, and ... and that's not fair. Very unfair. Very.
It cannot be fixed by making the world less racist.
So the reason that just telling (in this case) women to believe in themselves doesn't make them millionaires (read the rest of the article) is the fault of society, and must mean that society is classist, sexist, racist ?
I mean if that's the reasoning, then yes. Absolutely.
It pains me to read stuff like this, because there is no shortage of immigrants, significant numbers of them women, try their hand at a business in the center of the city. Some succeed, a lot fail. It is hard to read articles like this because unlike the author of this article (and even she is a standout among the people she describes), they spent years trying, with most of that time working for below minimum wage. The author of this article, I get the distinct impression has a level of effort measured in weeks, maybe months.
According to the author, the reason that just starting out and competing with very little effort against people who spend years of, not 9-to-5, but 7am-to-9pm days working at a business, the reason that that fails ... is that society is racist. And when it comes to coding, most people actually worked for 4+ years, something like 6-8 hours per day constantly, with very significant upticks in that during exams. The reason you can't best them after one "self-actualization" seminar, clearly, is racism and sexism.
No.
It isn't.
And yes, there are plenty of locals that "succeed" (to some extent) despite being morons. That's the same everywhere (seen it in at least 9 big cities around the world now, one of which was not first world, the rich being brown skinned (poor too of course) and it was much worse of a rich-poor divide than any western city I've ever seen). And it's not fair that that doesn't apply to you. But it doesn't apply to 90% of people, and probably doesn't apply to 99% of immigrants, and women of color, and ... and that's not fair. Very unfair. Very.
It cannot be fixed by making the world less racist.