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Re:More housing near the Expo Line and other California tran... by ryandrake on Thursday January 04, 2018 @09:26PM (#16075995)
When you choose to move somewhere, you're not just moving into an isolated square on the map. You're moving into a lifestyle and a neighborhood with attributes you desire. Those desirable attributes can include "no mid-rise apartments next door".

Apartments springing up next door hurt, if one of the primary reasons you move somewhere is that there are no apartments next door.

Re:More housing near the Expo Line and other California tran... by closeparen on Thursday January 04, 2018 @11:28PM (#16076538)
Sure, and now we’re asking the state to consider whether maintaining what you like about your neighborhood is sufficient justification to write public policy that denies opportunity to others.
Re:More housing near the Expo Line and other California tran... by harryh on Thursday January 04, 2018 @09:49PM (#16076099)
Lots of things hurt. It's not the government's job to make all of those things illegal.
Re:More housing near the Expo Line and other California tran... by ryandrake on Thursday January 04, 2018 @10:02PM (#16076153)
Where I live, the government's job is to support the will of the people electing them, within constitutional limits.
Re:More housing near the Expo Line and other California tran... by TheCoelacanth on Friday January 05, 2018 @04:02PM (#16081604)
The government's job is to balance the will of the people with the rights of minorities.

If 51% of people voted to outlaw single family houses would that be acceptable? Of course not. People should be able to build the type of housing that they want to on their own property.

Re:More housing near the Expo Line and other California tran... by harryh on Thursday January 04, 2018 @10:12PM (#16076194)
Until very recently laws against gay marriage were Constitutional. Was the government doing it's job well when it passed these laws?

No, it was not. There are underlying principles of good government that should constrain citizens and politicians further than what is strictly defined in the constitution.

That is the case being made here: NIMBY zoning laws, while constitutional, are not ethically or philosophically sound so we shouldn't have them.

Re:More housing near the Expo Line and other California tran... by closeparen on Thursday January 04, 2018 @11:23PM (#16076507)
And the will of the people of California appears to include affording its cities, and not to include an unlimited tolerance for single family neighborhoods dumping externalities on everyone else.