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Re:If not Java, why not then go with Lisp? by hga on Monday August 16, 2010 @07:05AM (#1607402)
Disagree: Sun v. Microsoft was strictly a battle on a licensing contract, not a use of probably generic/bogus? patents against an independent piece of software. And the end result was pretty much the death of Microsoft's version of Java ("Visual Studio 2005 was the last release to include J#" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%2B%2B#Visual_J.23).

A similar outcome in SCOracle v. Google would be the capping and pretty fast death of Android....

"Regardless, Clojure will remain the best way to survive the twilight of the Java era."

Well, if you're a Lisp fan like me (some Common Lisp fans are fond of Armed Bear Common Lisp: http://common-lisp.net/project/armedbear/); others strenuously disagree from both the Lisp ("Clojure is a terrifying meld of a beloved character and an unreasoning alien onslaught. http://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/aqcqx/how_a_common_lis... ) and non-Lisp camps.

Re:If not Java, why not then go with Lisp? by kevbin on Friday August 20, 2010 @06:29AM (#1620014)
Thanks, I hadn't heard that opinion on clojure. It is a weird lisp, but I like that. The energy and interest around clojure, its fresh ideas, and frenemy relationship w/ java are the reasons I think it's the best way to play on the jvm as java goes away.

After ms vs. Sun, ms produced .net. If google settled with sun then did the something similar: net win.