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Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by zitterbewegung on Thursday January 04, 2018 @03:19PM (#16073705)
They have deliberately hobbled Apple maps, Safari, Siri, and anything else that would be enhanced by big data for the sole fact for a secure experience .

They created Identificaton systems that are easy to use and deployed them to all iPhones .

If there is any company that actually cares about not monitoring your behavior it is Apple. They have the best track record comparing it to other big players .

Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by ariwilson on Thursday January 04, 2018 @04:03PM (#16074053)
Or, more pessimistically, they couldn't get Apple Maps, Safari, Siri working well with big data so they hobbled them and claimed it was for a secure experience.
Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by chowchowchow on Thursday January 04, 2018 @04:19PM (#16074192)
This comment only makes sense if you accept the premise that the working well with big data is more valuable than a secure experience.
Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by ariwilson on Thursday January 04, 2018 @06:06PM (#16074959)
I would take the bet that something that provides direct revenue incentives is worth more than something that only an admittedly vocal minority of users even care about, let alone might spend more for.
Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by chowchowchow on Thursday January 04, 2018 @06:10PM (#16074984)
Isn't Apple's entire business model selling to a minority of users who are willing to spend more for their products?
Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by ariwilson on Thursday January 04, 2018 @08:16PM (#16075691)
It's not self-evident that the minority of users who care about privacy is related to the minority of users who prefer Apple products.
Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by chowchowchow on Thursday January 04, 2018 @08:53PM (#16075864)
I see, so the pessimistic view you suggested above is that Apple has had such remarkable success selling to its subset of the market in spite of its inability to integrate big data into its products. This could be true, though it seems a bit less likely than a more direct explanation that Apple is selling its customers what they prefer.
Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by Asmod4n on Friday January 05, 2018 @12:32PM (#16080028)
I mostly only own Apple stuff because of the privacy reasons (and that their are the only company which got scrolling animations/feel right)
Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by pgwhalen on Thursday January 04, 2018 @08:41PM (#16075806)
When the standard of “well” is Google, who has very much data indeed, that’s not a farfetched premise.
Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by blueprint on Thursday January 04, 2018 @06:41PM (#16075155)
Well, are they orthogonal, or aren't they?
Re:iMac Pro's T2 chip by zitterbewegung on Thursday January 04, 2018 @05:24PM (#16074666)
I think I should have used a different word than secure exprerienc. Maybe sacrifice for security.

Although, I don't disagree with your statement. Considering how they seem to be attempting to catch up with ML projects and maybe it wasn't as emphasized in Apple's culture that could be it.

It seems like the AI so far has been powered by acquisitions and they are playing catch up.