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Re:Motel 6 routinely gave guests' information to immigration... by ballenf on Thursday January 04, 2018 @12:57PM (#16072410)
Replacing "undocumented immigrant" with "jew" or "same-sex couple" or "interracial couple" or "movie torrent pirate"... surely one of those substitutions triggers a reaction in even the most law-and-order out there.

edit: And most of those categories have been illegal in some states in the US's history.

Re:Motel 6 routinely gave guests' information to immigration... by aceoflala on Thursday January 04, 2018 @01:02PM (#16072469)
Are jews illegal per se?

Are illegal immigrants illegal per se?

Re:Motel 6 routinely gave guests' information to immigration... by klipt on Thursday January 04, 2018 @01:18PM (#16072621)
In the context of Nazi Germany - the Nazis passed laws to strip Jews of German citizenship, so technically Jews were illegal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws#Reich_Citizensh...

Re:Motel 6 routinely gave guests' information to immigration... by mikeash on Thursday January 04, 2018 @01:30PM (#16072742)
People are never illegal. People perform acts which may or may not be illegal. “Illegal immigrant” is a dumb term. We don’t describe speeders as “illegal drivers.”
Re:Motel 6 routinely gave guests' information to immigration... by ChemicalWarfare on Thursday January 04, 2018 @01:59PM (#16073016)
>> We don’t describe speeders as “illegal drivers.”

that's not apples to apples. "illegal driver" would be someone who is breaking the law by the very fact of them driving - ppl with no DLs for example. same with illegal immigrants - they are breaking the law by the very fact of being present in the country they are not permitted to be in.

Re:Motel 6 routinely gave guests' information to immigration... by TrevorJ on Thursday January 04, 2018 @02:21PM (#16073221)
Illegal refers to the immigration status, not the person.
Re:Motel 6 routinely gave guests' information to immigration... by Cyberdog on Thursday January 04, 2018 @01:13PM (#16072572)
> Are illegal immigrants illegal per se?

Sure. So how do we determine who is an illegal immigrant? By looking at an illegally-obtained list of names and picking out the Hispanic ones for background checks?

Re:Motel 6 routinely gave guests' information to immigration... by chrismeller on Thursday January 04, 2018 @01:21PM (#16072659)
The majority of European (and other) countries require everyone staying at a hotel be reported, so it doesn’t become the hotel’s job to determine illegal vs legal, it just becomes a huge privacy issue for everyone because the government knows everywhere you stay.