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Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by awj on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @12:17PM (#16062815)
That's quite possibly the most inefficient way to handle such a thing. As a reminder: there's a very good chance that, with healthcare, inefficiency => people die.

Beyond that, it's an insulting way to avoid having a real discussion on this issue. If the charity of the rich were enough to solve this social problem, we wouldn't be talking about it. Why are you participating in these discussions if the only solution you have to offer has been tried and failed for most of human history?

Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by logicchains on Thursday January 04, 2018 @06:01AM (#16069377)
>Why are you participating in these discussions if the only solution you have to offer has been tried and failed for most of human history?

I'm sorry, I was unaware of the existing solution that has succeeded at solving all social problems in the countries in which it's implemented.

Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by awj on Thursday January 04, 2018 @03:39PM (#16073865)
You're the one saying we should effectively stick with the current mechanism, despite its flaws. The onus isn't on me to provide an alternative, it's on you to defend a problematic solution.
Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by logicchains on Thursday January 04, 2018 @11:17PM (#16076494)
>You're the one saying we should effectively stick with the current mechanism, despite its flaws. The onus isn't on me to provide an alternative, it's on you to defend a problematic solution.

If the alternative is not flawless, then one needs to show that the disadvantages of the alternative vs the current situation are outweighed by its advantages over the current system.

Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by oreo81 on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @04:07PM (#16065150)
That sounds like the most efficient way to handle such a thing. Please explain...
Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by wooter on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @03:10PM (#16064580)
> Why are you participating in these discussions if the only solution you have to offer has been tried and failed for most of human history?

So you agree we should stop massive government programs that have always resulted in centralization, bankruptcy, and systemic poverty? Venezuela, Cuba, USSR, Greece, Spain, Italy, China, ... How much more failure do you need to realize Government isnt the answer?

Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by braythwayt on Wednesday January 03, 2018 @04:13PM (#16065203)
Let me know when Canada fails. Or Germany. Or Sweden. Or Norway. Or... Or... Or...
Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by wooter on Thursday January 04, 2018 @06:08PM (#16074969)
https://mises.org/blog/if-sweden-and-germany-became-us-state...

they would be amongst the poorest states by median household income, purchasing power parity, cost of living, and gdp per capita

Re:Why the U.S. Spends So Much More Than Other Nations on He... by braythwayt on Friday January 05, 2018 @02:19PM (#16080863)
So your argument is that these statistics "prove" that Sweden and Germany's people are worse off than the citizens of most US states?

First, it would seem that all those people are too ignorant to understand how much better their lives would be if they were, for example, living in Michigan. If only we could teach them how unhappy they are!

Second, the claim that the people are "poorer" is not a cogent claim that their countries are failures. Your argument reminds me of something I tell my children:

"Human beings are the most successful form of life on Earth, by all the metrics that humans choose to measure success."